Grammatical Problems

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There is no exact correct translation, in translation world we try to find the most similar pattern, that's the way it works.

You can't say none of other members respond to you is wrong, nor completely true, actually grammer is a mean to communicate what you mean, and the truth is you can never ever translate what you mean to another language, not as perfect as you think.

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Dear Gole Sang

I apologize, you had translated them for me, but I didn't pay attention, your translattions are completely correct, but I try to describe my question for you again:

The work is done= كار انجام شده است.
The work is done= كار انجام مي شود.

Which one do you pick? and why?

[amintnt]

Dear Gole Sang

I apologize, you had translated them for me, but I didn't pay attention, your translattions are completely correct, but I try to describe my question for you again:

The work is done= كار انجام شده است.
The work is done= كار انجام مي شود.

Which one do you pick? and why?

Hi dear Babak

The work is done= کار انجام میشود

They both are correct but the first one is not used anywhere!. Let me explain by the verb "Annoy"l

She's annoyed

In above sentence the word "annoyed" is an adjective so the sentence is not in passive form and it could be translated :l

" او ناراحت است "

Rather than:l

او ناراحت میشود

Or

او ناراحت شده است.

The first sentence is a Conditional sentence so we've got nothing to do with it here, but the second one could be translated:l

او ناراحت شده است= She's been annoyed

So we can translate the example you gave in two ways

کار انجام شده است

Be careful that the word "Anjam Shode" is an adjective! Not a verb! So it has got no meaning!l

And:

کار انجام میشود

Which is passive and the tense is Present Continuous and its meaning is completely clear!

I hope you've got what I mean!

Good Luck l

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Hi dear Babak

The work is done= کار انجام میشود

They both are correct but the first one is not used anywhere!. Let me explain by the verb "Annoy"l

She's annoyed

In above sentence the word "annoyed" is an adjective so the sentence is not in passive form and it could be translated :l

" او ناراحت است "

Rather than:l

او ناراحت میشود

Or

او ناراحت شده است.

The first sentence is a Conditional sentence so we've got nothing to do with it here, but the second one could be translated:l

او ناراحت شده است= She's been annoyed

So we can translate the example you gave in two ways

کار انجام شده است

Be careful that the word "Anjam Shode" is an adjective! Not a verb! So it has got no meaning!l

And:

کار انجام میشود

Which is passive and the tense is Present Continuous and its meaning is completely clear!

I hope you've got what I mean!

Good Luck l

You are the first person in this topic who really got what my questionis.

I understood what you mean and I really thank you, but if I can discussabout it more, can I ask this question:

You mentioned the word "annoyed" is an adjective; therefore we can translateit like:

او ناراحت است

The question is: When we have a verb and we use the PP of that verb, we use the passive adjective of that verb, am I right?

So PP of verbs are always adjective; so according to your idea, you can't say: او ناراحت مي شود.

1-Look at this Farsi sentences:

او هر روز از دست من ناراحت مي شود

This sentence can be translated in English by using simple present like this:

She is annoyed by me every day.

2-And now look at this sentence:

او از دست من ناراحت است.

This sentence can be translated in English by using simple present too:

She is annoyed.

3-So, How can you distinct between simple present tense and passive simple present tense?

She is beautiful.

She is annoyed.

She is happy.

In all of this cases, the fact is we have simple present tense, you can say the second sentence is passive simple present tense, but I can say the second sentence is not passive and annoy is merely an adjective.

Isn't it confusion in grammar?

I believe it is confusion and you only can get the correct meaning according to rest of the sentences in conversation, what is your idea?

[Gole_sang]

Dear Gole Sang

I apologize, you had translated them for me, but I didn't pay attention, your translattions are completely correct, but I try to describe my question for you again:

The work is done= كار انجام شده است.
The work is done= كار انجام مي شود.

Which one do you pick? and why?

that's not problem

I see that your puzzle has been solved.

I havn't had the opportunity to read it carfully yet,

but I will.

Best regards

[Petros]

سلام
12 Dollars درسته یا 12 Dollar؟

اگه 12 Dollars درسته، چرا نمیگن 12 Percents میگن 12 Percent؟

ممنون

[peyman1987]

Dear Petros

Both dollar and percent are countable nouns. It means they can be used in plural form. The plural form of dollar is dollars as you mentioned.
So it will be correct if you say "I spent 12 dollars." not "I spent 12 dollar.".
Plural form of percent as a noun is percent!!!
So we have to say "I spent 20 percent of my money." not "I spent 20 percents of my money."

In addition in some cases percent can be used as an adjective or an adverb.
For instance you can say :
It's a 12 percent forfeit.

[ali80]

Dear Petros

Both dollar and percent are countable nouns. It means they can be used in plural form.

Guess not,percent is not a countable noun(when you mean the percentage of a number) ,we don't use the plural form cause there is no plural form
Have you ever used percent as plural in persian
!???

[Petros]

Thanx my friends
:But check this out

?As you see You can use Percent in Plural form but When

[ali80]

Thanx my friends
:But check this out

?As you see You can use Percent in Plural form but When

ha

when it doesn't mean percent

for example when you want to talk about the word percent itself not about the percentage of a number
example:converting percents to decimals
OR teacher to student:
I want you to analyse the percents which you have gained from experiments