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I am still waiting for a room for beginners, there are many beginners who need to be directed to a Farsi room, they are here not to learn English, but to get answer of their questions, usually grammar problems or questions about classes and methods
I see many people are writing in Farsi already, isn't it better that we make a rule which every body can follow just by adding a Farsi room to English forum?
if you agree with me, you vote here,
so the manager may make a difference
Thank you
Well babak, you're absolutely right ,I totally agree with you.
I can't find Reza at all..you should know that every thing should be done with his permission and he's the one who should ask the super moderators and the admins to do something with this room.
What's your suggestion? I mean what's everybody's suggestion??? If we reach to a conclusion here, I'll ask the super moderators to make a change here, I doubt that they listen to me...But at least I can try:20:
Waiting for your comments on this:11:l
I personally think it's better to remove the whole " writing Persian is forbidden " thing ... better to use this rule for specific topics , not all of them ... if someone wants to talk English , fine ... but if someone can't/don't wanna/don't have time to/embarrassed to make mistakes , why bother?
but , then it's just me ... [ برای مشاهده لینک ، با نام کاربری خود وارد شوید یا ثبت نام کنید ]
I think adding farsi room to english forum is a bad idea
in P30world forum everything is prepare to write farsi .
do you have trouble with writing farsi?
نقل قول:Dear siavash,
This is something really different, may be some one doesn't know English so well to talk, but he got a problem, So what should he do????l
نقل قول:Well, This is an idea , Thanks Seymour,
But there is a problem here, If I let users to speak Farsi, this room will become a spam room so soon.
I think we should let people write in Persian, but just in some specific topics..or divided rooms
Just imagine someone who is new to english
He \ She can ask questions in farsi and get the answer in english
This topic helps him/her to find what he/she wants whithout trying to ask for it
with a language that he/she hasn't enough skill in it
Thank you for your attention
I believe voting can be useful, so please vote on the top
Thank you
Babak
I think we need a farsi room too, thank you babak for opening this topic
اقراء
و او گفت خواندن نمي دانم
Don't you think all this " speak only English" for beginner is impossible!
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Vote and make this topic active
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Dear Archi Girl
Don't take it as a compliment, The fact is You are a gift for this Forum, and I am really thankful that you are helping here, You listen and you help and you never try to prove that you know more or you are better, your behavior is full of respect and love for all the users, I appreciate it.
I believe you should be substituted with Reza, because he doesn't listen to us, I myself sent PM to him but he didn't reply ( although that he had read it)
I think The process of making the room
" اتاق فارسي براي سوالات مبتديان"
Should be as follows:
First we should try to prove the Fact that Farsi room is neccessary
Then we should try to make them listen to the Fact
So lets just now think about the First Step
:20:
Thank you for your attention
Babak
.We Have farsi room for beginners
ما در خواست روم برای فارسی برای مبتدیان هستیم.
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Dear Babak,
Thanks for what you write about me , that's so nice of you. The fact is so complicated here.
You can't imagine how much I'm tired and bored and angry with all the things that is going on around here. What I can do is so limited. Actually I should say I can do nothing but to report to the managers or Reza (As he is my manager and he has all the power here).
I can't even choose or introduce active members here, There are some people who are so active here and they deserve to get the title of active member of English room, so with this title they'll be more active and try to come and participate in topics more, But I can't because I'm just an assistant. I see we lost many of our active members so far.
You can't imagine how much of undone jobs has remained, such as post deletes, merging topics, remove the unnecessary topics and so on.. I think I've written more than 3 pages of links to be merged, deleted and etc.. but there is no Reza to do that. I can' ask the super moderators all the times. I just ask them to delete advertisement and things which are against the law of forum.
I really lost all my motives , because I can't do anything useful for this room. All my messages to Reza hasn't been replied too, don't think that it's just you.
By the way I know Reza some how don't like you:27: , Don't know why, I just think he can't tolerate someone who is as knowledgeable as he is!!!!!!!
In my opinion this room is messed up. I really try hard not to let it happen more and more, but it's out of my control. I'll write another letter to the admins..hope they count me in!!!!
you should know something about this forum, That voting and democracy won't work here ( As it doesn't work anywhere in Iran) ..So the only way is talking directly with them..I hope it works ..Actually it hasn't worked for me so far!!!!!l
let's just hope that a miracle happen soon:46:
Good luck dear:11::11::11:l
Hi My Frinds
Please Write Persian words For beginners.Because beginners do not Understand English Words.
یه چیزی نوشتم.
نقل قول:Thank you for your sympathy
I really feel the same, but I have one idea, we shouldn't lose motivation, always there is a way, I am searching for a good forum, if I can't enjoy my being here, I should find a better place to go, but as when as I refresh this page, I do my best to make it the best
I have written a Message to the management too
By the way, don't think you are not effective
because you are
Babak
By the way, thanks for your compliment
:11:
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Just take a look at the posts left by Reza and Babak, you may want to change the idea Azadeh :38:lنقل قول:
By the way I know Reza some how don't like you [ برای مشاهده لینک ، با نام کاربری خود وارد شوید یا ثبت نام کنید ] , Don't know why, I just think he can't tolerate someone who is as knowledgeable as he is!!!!!!!
He hasn't visited P30world for a couple of days, maybe that's the reason he hasn't made a reply to you yet.
Well, we already have topics for Grammatical Problems .If I am an English teacher, and want to learn new methods, why do I have to write in Persian while I'm an expert in English. If there's any other examples, let me know buddy!lنقل قول:
, but to get answer of their questions, usually grammar problems or questions about classes and methods
Well, it is good to debate
isn't it
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نقل قول:First thank you for writing here
it is good to have an argument, much better than silence
Why he doesn't respond to me?! I don't know! :13:if He likes me, I am happy, if he doesn't, bad for him!
I myself sent him private message and he read it, but he didn't answer
I don't understand why, maybe too busy!
but let's not discuss why Reza doesn't reply to me or to other users. I respect him, because I have read many good posts from him and I know he tried well to help others here.
and about your second comment;
Just take a look at beginners questions, they ask about how to improve their english ( that's what I meant by method), some of them are from far far away part of Iran, they don't go to Language institute, nor they have a private tutor, they asked me to buy books and send for them!
They need to learn themselves without help of any teacher, they need to learn a method for self studying.
Do you know how much more effective this forum can be if we just add one Farsi room for helping beginners?
Speaking only English is very old method for teaching, now biolingual classes runs in Cambridge school and many other competitor's in Japan and in Dubai. (For example I myself teach Grammar in Farsi and It's really effective, fast and pleasant for students)
Buddy, it is good to understand each other , it is much better than just trying to criticize. ( I am sure you didn't mean to, did you?)
Now, if you are convinced, please vote to have a Farsi room, and if you are not,, just let me know why I am wrong
Yours faithfully
Babak
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Hiنقل قول:
Why he doesn't respond to me?! I don't know! [ برای مشاهده لینک ، با نام کاربری خود وارد شوید یا ثبت نام کنید ] if He likes me, I am happy, if he doesn't, bad for him!
I myself sent him private message and he read it, but he didn't answer
I don't understand why, maybe too busy!
He sometimes wouldn't reply my PMs too, but I'm sure that doesn't mean he hates me or sth. I guess he's busy, so that he hasn't made a post within a year! But trust me, he's a good guy.
It'd be nice to have a change in the forum. :)l
نقل قول:Hey Amin,
I never said Reza is a bad guy, I have the same idea that he's a good man, but He's soooo busy these days and I know that:20:l
I think having a room for beginers in persian language isn't a good Idea if we give them just a topic is proper
It's a good idea
A room (sub-section) for beginners for whom that can not write english properly
to create threads and ask their questions pose their requests and ... l
when they think that they can take part in this section come here and send their post more bravely and more secure and ... l
create threads for under-begginers in Persian and teach them in Persian language and step by step.l
and more and more useful usages
This site must appreciate Persons who are knowledgeable in one or some subjects and try to hold them for forum
BUT I THINK ...:41:l
yes i'm agree, it's a good idea because i'm a beginner and when i came to these topics for first time i can't find my topic(in my level).
it's really a good idea.
well ; I've read all the posts
let me express my own openions
Now the manager is changed and we have totally the required power to make a farsi topic
but before we make it ; we must consider lots of factors that might influence the process of learning
about the whole idea of making a farsi topic ; I can say with certainty ; that it would be a turning point in this forum
but as Archi ; the moderator ; already said : there might be some abuse ; i.e some users might tend to post spams
to prevent them to do so ; it's archi's job to do something about it
but anyone who aims to make a farsi room to teach beginners please join us in EFL Teaching Team
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The Team describtion
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Please ; if anyone has any idea about teaching stuff including teaching methodology ; materials and everything else ;related to making a useful topic for English amateur learners ; doesn't hesitate to join us
any of English teachers ; who might see my post ; is welcome to join us in EFL Teaching Team
I personally invite those teachers and experts who I'm familiar with; including ; Dear Love-to-learn ; dear BABAK ; dear AABB ; dear @mir ; dear Archi-girl and all others who may aplogozie my memoryکد:http://www.forum.p30world.com/group.php?groupid=187
I'm waiting to meet you there
sorry i didnt read the last post
Well, as Mohammad has already said, we should all decide what to do with the new Farsi forum, What should we do that users don't post spams there, we can have e-learning exercises and many many more things
I really appreciate all your comments about this, meanwhile I'll get familiar with the managing thingy:31: , because it's so hard and I should get used to it
Good luck:10:
(I think we don't need that social group, we can continue here)
- by the way Mohammad, I see you are so active these days , what has happened???:27:l
Maybe this is the best efficient way to answer to all needsکد:http://forum.p30world.com/showthread.php?t=233758
You know it is better than nothing
and I think every body will agree that it helps the forum to suffer from less Farsi Topics
and at the same time make this forum as good for beginners, as this is for rest of us
I am waiting to have confirmation of dear Manager
Looking forward to know all of your impressions
Babak
Archi-girl I think You need assistant(s) to help you and this part of forum
Summer is coming and students and ... will invade :31: here
I suggest to choose one or more users that they are active and have enough competence not only for summer but also for ever
Do you agree?l
I guess finally we can close this topic
Thanks dear Manager Archi Girl for her cooperation
but I don't know what other users may suggest
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