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06-08-2006, 17:02
Reza1969

Some points

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Don't u think that if the first part were like this it was better?
This is the first thing that i've tried to write in english here and excuse me if u find lots mistakes in it.
it can be " i try to write" but i think that "I've tried" shoud be better. and the word forgive used to tell u r sorry about sth bad such as sin. but here excuse me is better to raplace with. :) (maybe i'm wrong)

Hi Amin :)

Thanks for your attention.

In addition to your structure, we can also say: "This is the first time I'm trying to write in English." or "This is my first writing in English."

And about the second point, I have to say that if you use "Excuse me", your writhing will sound more informal. So you'd better say something like this: "Please excuse my (probable) mistakes."

However, I see eye to eye with rezamjir. :happy:

And also, this sentence is not correct: :blush:

Don't u think that if the first part were like this it was better?

Corrected form:

Don't you think that if the first part were like this, it would be better?

Yours

Reza
;)
06-08-2006, 20:36
amintnt

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Hi Amin :)

Thanks for your attention.

In addition to your structure, we can also say: "This is the first time I'm trying to write in English." or "This is my first writing in English."

And about the second point, I have to say that if you use "Excuse me", your writhing will sound more informal. So you'd better say something like this: "Please excuse my (probable) mistakes."

However, I see eye to eye with rezamjir. :happy:

And also, this sentence is not correct: :blush:

Don't u think that if the first part were like this it was better?

Corrected form:

Don't you think that if the first part were like this, it would be better?

Yours

Reza
;)

Hi. All of u say that i'm wrong. so im wrong :biggrin: . No DOUBT. and about that mistake of me. Yeah, It sound that u r right.
03-09-2006, 12:07
Marichka

Hello All :rolleye:
I need your help with some word structure. I guess you know the word "Unstopable", Don't you? Now I wonder if there is such a form of this word with this structure:
"Unstopablly"

Thanks for you help
Good Luck :)
07-10-2006, 20:45
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unstoppable
One entry found for unstoppable.

Main Entry: un·stop·pa·ble
Pronunciation: -'stä-p&-b&l
Function: adjective
: incapable of being stopped <an unstoppable army> <an unstoppable rise to power>
- un·stop·pa·bly /-blE/ adverb

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I found this in Merriam Webster's Online Dictionary.
12-10-2006, 21:37
Mitamo

a question about grammer

How many noun clauses and how many adjective clasues are included in this text?

Thanks

The topic was edited

The control of fire was the first and perhaps greatest of humanity’s steps towards a life-enhancing technology.

To early man fire was a divine gift randomly delivered in the form of lighting forest fire or burning lava.

Unable to make flame for themselves, the earliest peoples probably stored fire by keeping slow-burning logs alight or by carrying charcoal in pots.

How and where man learnt how to produce flame at will is unknown.

It was probably a secondary Invention, accidentally made during tool-making operations with wood or stone.

Studies of primitive societies suggest that the earliest method of making fire was through friction European peasants would insert a wooden drill in a round hole and rotate it briskly between their palms.

This process could be speeded up by wrapping a cord around the drill and pulling on each end.

The Ancient Greeks usual lenses or concave mirrors to concentrate the sun’s rays and burning glasses were also used by Mexican Aztecs and the Chinese.

Percussion methods of fire lighting date back to Paleolithic times, when some Stone Age tool-makers discovered that chipping flints produced sparks the technique became more efficient after the discovery of iron, about 5000 years ago.

In Arctic North America, the Eskimos produced a slow-burning spark by striking quarts against iron pyrites, a compound that contains sulphur.

The Chinese lit their fires by striking porcelain with bamboo.

In Europe, the combination of steel, flint and tinder remained the main method of fire-lighting until the mid-19th century.

Fire-lighting was revolutionized by the discovery of phosphorus, isolated in 1669 by a German alchemist trying to transmute silver into gold.

Impressed by the element’s combustibility, several 17th century chemists used it to manufacture fire-lighting devices, but the results were dangerously inflammable.

With phosphorus costing the equivalent of several hundred pounds per ounce, the first matches were expensive.

The quest for a practical match really began after 1781 when a group of French chemists came up with the phosphoric candle or Ethereal Match, a sealed glass tube containing a twist of paper tipped with phosphorus.

When the tube was broken, air rushed in, causing the phosphorus to self combust.
13-10-2006, 22:08
Reza1969

The answer

Dear Blue_Moon

Please pay attention to the regulations of this forum before leaving your post. You're not allowed to writre in Persian in English forum.

About your question,

I can tell you in this way that a noun clause is a kind of clause which comes in a sentence and can act as the subject or object of that sentence like

I know that coffee grows in Brazil.(noun clause as the object of the sentence)

How he gets the money is his own affair.(noun clause as the subject of the sentence)

But an adjective clause is a clause that comes after a noun to complete its meaning.It's sometimes called a relative clause, too. Like

This is the year when the Olympic games are held.

He paid the man whom he had hired.

This is the girl whose picture you saw.

Now in your text, I've marked the adjective clasues with blue color and the noun clasuses with red one. And you'd better know that sometimes an adjective or a noun clause may contain another noun or adjective clause.

The control of fire was the first and perhaps greatest of humanity’s steps towards a life-enhancing technology.

To early man fire was a divine gift randomly delivered in the form of lighting forest fire or burning lava.

Unable to make flame for themselves, the earliest peoples probably stored fire by keeping slow-burning logs alight or by carrying charcoal in pots.

How and where man learnt how to produce flame at will is unknown.

It was probably a secondary Invention, accidentally made during tool-making operations with wood or stone.

Studies of primitive societies suggest that the earliest method of making fire was through friction European peasants would insert a wooden drill in a round hole and rotate it briskly between their palms.

This process could be speeded up by wrapping a cord around the drill and pulling on each end.

The Ancient Greeks usual lenses or concave mirrors to concentrate the sun’s rays and burning glasses were also used by Mexican Aztecs and the Chinese.

Percussion methods of fire lighting date back to Paleolithic times, when some Stone Age tool-makers discovered that chipping flints produced sparks the technique became more efficient after the discovery of iron, about 5000 years ago.

In Arctic North America, the Eskimos produced a slow-burning spark by striking quarts against iron pyrites, a compound that contains sulphur.

The Chinese lit their fires by striking porcelain with bamboo.

In Europe, the combination of steel, flint and tinder remained the main method of fire-lighting until the mid-19th century.

Fire-lighting was revolutionized by the discovery of phosphorus, isolated in 1669 by a German alchemist trying to transmute silver into gold.

Impressed by the element’s combustibility, several 17th century chemists used it to manufacture fire-lighting devices, but the results were dangerously inflammable.

With phosphorus costing the equivalent of several hundred pounds per ounce, the first matches were expensive.

The quest for a practical match really began after 1781 when a group of French chemists came up with the phosphoric candle or Ethereal Match, a sealed glass tube containing a twist of paper tipped with phosphorus.

When the tube was broken, air rushed in, causing the phosphorus to self combust.
15-10-2006, 06:58
amoz

I have a test about gramer.Please answer it asap & mention your reason

The process uses an innovative digital technology -----------the products which as many colors as the image contains

1-to imprint that

2- that imprinting

3- that imprints

4- that it imprints

5- imprints that

thanks
15-10-2006, 22:43
love-to-learn

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I have a test about gramer.Please answer it asap & mention your reason

The process uses an innovative digital technology -----------the products which as many colors as the image contains

1-to imprint that

2- that imprinting

3- that imprints

4- that it imprints

5- imprints that

thanks

Dear Amoz,

I'm not quite sure but I think no. 3 could well fill the gap in your sentence. Because "the products" is the object for imprints and "which...." is the modifier. "imprint" is the verb for "digital technoliogy".

Good luck
15-10-2006, 23:58
Reza1969

The reason for the correct answer

Hi dear Amoz

In agreement with love-to-learn, I have to say that item 3 best fits the sentence. Because after the word technologywhich is a noun we can continue the sentence in two ways:

using a realative clause(here a that clause) or an infinitive.

Items 2 & 5 are out of discussion as after thatwe can't use a gerund and the word imprintsin item 5 starts with no subordinator.

Item 1 can't correct as in that case the sentence after thatwould lack a main verb.

And item 4 is not correct because after that in a relative clause we can't use a pronoun.

So we have item 4 left.
20-10-2006, 06:31
amoz

thankyou anyone for answering my question
08-11-2006, 15:54
peyman1987

I think there is a typing mistake in your question.
I think the right sentence is the following one :
The process uses an innovative digital technology -----------the products with as many colors as the image contains.

and the answer is no. 3

thanks
12-01-2007, 19:31
amintnt

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Dear Blue_Moon

Please pay attention to the regulations of this forum before leaving your post. You're allowed to writre in Persian in English forum.
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allowed? :laughing: sorry, but i remember u said that here we're not allowed to leave any post in persian! so wt's this? a mistype? I'm sorry :blush: .d
12-01-2007, 19:42
amintnt

friends, i have a gramatical problem. I'm sorry dear Reza, but if i explain it in persian u'll get my meaning better. I've asked some pple abt this, but i got nothing!(Now u're thinking such a fool this guy can be!:D)l
راستش وقتی که میگیم The window is broken یعنی اینکه پنجره شکسته میشه؟ یا شکسته شده؟ این استمراری دیگه نه؟ پس باید بشه شکسته میشه! اما خوب بعضیا که من پرسیدم گفتن که شکسته شده. حتی بعضی جاها هم معنی به حال استمراری(مجهول) نمیخوره. یعنی همون شکسته شده بیشتر به معنی میخوره. حالا اگر اینو بگیریم شکسته شده، پس the window has been broken چی کارست؟این یعنی اینکه پنجره شکسته شده. درست میگم؟ نمیدونم منظورمو گرفتین یا نه. ممنون میشم یه توضیحی بدین.

Seems no one here have a grammatical problem! it's been a long time which no post has been sent here! it's quite abandoned!( are these passive forms correct?:D)d
13-01-2007, 03:44
Reza1969

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allowed? :laughing: sorry, but i remember u said that here we're not allowed to leave any post in persian! so wt's this? a mistype? I'm sorry :blush: .d

Thanks for your notice, but for trifle matters like this one, you could have used a private message instead of making a post. Right??:blush:
16-01-2007, 10:49
Sec Expert

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friends, i have a gramatical problem. I'm sorry dear Reza, but if i explain it in persian u'll get my meaning better. I've asked some pple abt this, but i got nothing!(Now u're thinking such a fool this guy can be!:D)l
راستش وقتی که میگیم The window is broken یعنی اینکه پنجره شکسته میشه؟ یا شکسته شده؟ این استمراری دیگه نه؟ پس باید بشه شکسته میشه! اما خوب بعضیا که من پرسیدم گفتن که شکسته شده. حتی بعضی جاها هم معنی به حال استمراری(مجهول) نمیخوره. یعنی همون شکسته شده بیشتر به معنی میخوره. حالا اگر اینو بگیریم شکسته شده، پس the window has been broken چی کارست؟این یعنی اینکه پنجره شکسته شده. درست میگم؟ نمیدونم منظورمو گرفتین یا نه. ممنون میشم یه توضیحی بدین.

Seems no one here have a grammatical problem! it's been a long time which no post has been sent here! it's quite abandoned!( are these passive forms correct?:D)d

Hello Dear amintnt,
It can be translated into "پنجره شکستس (شکسته می باشد،شکسته هست یا است)" or sometimes into "پنجره شکسته می شود".
However Translation is a very very very complicated process.
Good Luck!
25-03-2007, 05:14
peyman1987

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friends, i have a gramatical problem. I'm sorry dear Reza, but if i explain it in persian u'll get my meaning better. I've asked some pple abt this, but i got nothing!(Now u're thinking such a fool this guy can be!:D)l
راستش وقتی که میگیم The window is broken یعنی اینکه پنجره شکسته میشه؟ یا شکسته شده؟ این استمراری دیگه نه؟ پس باید بشه شکسته میشه! اما خوب بعضیا که من پرسیدم گفتن که شکسته شده. حتی بعضی جاها هم معنی به حال استمراری(مجهول) نمیخوره. یعنی همون شکسته شده بیشتر به معنی میخوره. حالا اگر اینو بگیریم شکسته شده، پس the window has been broken چی کارست؟این یعنی اینکه پنجره شکسته شده. درست میگم؟ نمیدونم منظورمو گرفتین یا نه. ممنون میشم یه توضیحی بدین.

Seems no one here have a grammatical problem! it's been a long time which no post has been sent here! it's quite abandoned!( are these passive forms correct?:D)d

Your sentence is not in present continuous tense.
It is in present perfect tense and it is a passive sentence.
Of course the meaning is "پنجره شکسته شده"
05-05-2007, 23:09
پرنس

hi dears
Could you please tell me my mistakes?

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British Library in cooperate with Hotmail, has designed a new project that aims to collect interesting British emails and keep them for the future.They want to show to the next generations that how they parents are using email. I'm not from the next generation, but I've found an interesting email that contains a funny sentence:

Marriage is about the most expensive way for the average man to get laundry done.

Cheers
05-05-2007, 23:58
mir@

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hi dears
Could you please tell me my mistakes?

British Library in cooperation with Hotmail, has designed a new project that aims to collect interesting British emails and keep them for the future.They want to show to the next generations that how they parents are using email. I'm not from the next generation, but I've found an interesting email that contains a funny sentence:

Marriage is about the most expensive way for the average man to get laundry done

Cheers

I think it is the only error.
:23:

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07-05-2007, 08:37
peyman1987

British Library in cooperation with Hotmail, has designed a new project that aims to collect interesting British emails and keep them for the future.They want to show the next generations that how their parents are using email. I'm not from the next generation, but I've found an interesting email that contains a funny sentence:

Marriage is about the most expensive way for the average man to get laundry done
07-05-2007, 19:25
پرنس

thanks a lot my dears Amir & Peyman.
07-05-2007, 19:28
پرنس

I have been asking this question all the time that "Why people don't use their cell phones as mp3player,camera,etc and use separate devices instead ?".Now that my mobile has broken, I have an answer.It's good to have everything on one thing ,but when it breaks we'll have nothing!
21-05-2007, 14:44
sise

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I have been asking this question all the time that "Why people don't use their cell phones as mp3player,camera,etc and use separate devices instead ?".Now that my mobile has broken, I have an answer.It's good to have everything on one thing ,but when it breaks we'll have nothing!

so we must buy different things sepertely since it may break someday??!!
09-06-2007, 01:20
Arash_XL7710i_207

What's the difference between How and What in the following examples:
what a nice car!
how a beautifull day!
09-06-2007, 09:03
amintnt

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يه توضيحي در مورد what و how در مورد:
به عنوان مثال:
what a nice car!
how a beautifull day!

Hi dear Arash

I haven't heard something like " How a beautiful day". Instead they say "what a beautiful day" or "such a beautiful day". I exactly don't know the grammer, but it seems to use an adjective after "how"l

Good Luck :happy:l
09-06-2007, 10:35
Reza1969

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What's the difference between How and What in the following examples:
what a nice car!
how a beautifull day!

Dear Arash

"How" is usually followed by an adjective :

How strange
How beautiful she is
How nice

But "What" is usually followed by a noun:

What a pretty picture

What a day

What a movie it was

And please don't forget to type in English:46:
09-06-2007, 23:13
Arash_XL7710i_207

oh thanks alot.
01-08-2007, 10:14
behzadjon

hi all
i have an easy question but hrad to answer
which is correct?

it belongs to me

it's belong to me

????
01-08-2007, 11:12
love-to-learn

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hi all
i have an easy question but hrad to answer
which is correct?

it belongs to me

it's belong to me

????

Hi dear Behzad,

Of course the first one is correct. Belong is a verb and cannot be used in the form you have written in the second sentence.

When you have a main verb with an auxiliary you use it in "ing" form (depending on the verb and the meaning you want to imply)

Good luck :11:l
12-08-2007, 23:51
bakhishman

hi any body I always have problem with gramer .im not bad in vocabulary good in prunancing and prefect in listening.I dont have a good self confidence in speaking because I afraid of grametic mistake all the time .and right now I dont know if I have any grametic mistake in this small text.

I dont know what to do
19-08-2007, 15:01
peyman1987

You don't have to bother. Just don't care about your mistakes but try to learn from them. You can write your problems here and our friends will help you.

For the first lesson pay attention to the following sentences

1- I am afraid of grammatical mistakes
2- I afraid of grammatic mistakes

After subject you have to use a verb in simple present tense. Here afraid is an adjective not a verb so you have to use "am before it."

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20-08-2007, 16:52
elendil

I have a problem in Clauses & Phrase

Is that possible for you to help me

Thanks a lot
20-08-2007, 20:54
behnam karami

what is your problem
21-08-2007, 10:43
elendil

I have a problem in noun clause & adjective clause

Could you help me
23-08-2007, 15:33
www.babakebadi.com

Is it a simple question for you?

I think I have a question to ask!

Please translate these sentences for me and think about the meaning of what you are writing:

The work is done.

And then please compare it with this one:

The work was done.

And then again please translate this one:

The food is ready.

For me there is a confusion! How about you?!
23-08-2007, 16:01
shahrzad2006

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I think I have a question to ask!

Please translate these sentences for me and think about the meaning of what you are writing:

The work is done.
کار انجام شده

And then please compare it with this one:

The work was done.

کار انجام شده بود

And then again please translate this one:

The food is ready.

غذا حاضره

For me there is a confusion! How about you?!

sorry but i think there's no confusion
23-08-2007, 17:49
peyman1987

The work is done -> کار انجام شده است.
The work was done -> کار انجام شده بود.
The food is ready -> غذا آماده است.

I don't see any confusions in these sentences.
26-08-2007, 23:25
www.babakebadi.com

There is a confusion

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sorry but i think there's no confusion

برای پیدا کردن ابهام ترجمه هایی که زحمت کشیده بودید، اگر ممکن است، این ها را به انگلیسی ترجمه کنید:

کار هر روز ساعت 2 انجام می شود. ( زمان حال ساده)

کار انجام شده است. ( زمان گذشته نقلی)

کار الان در حال انجام شدن است. ( زمان حال استمراری)

و حالا بفرمایید The food is ready آیا هنوز همان غذا حاضر آماده است می شود؟! یا شاید می شود: غذا حاضر می شود.

نکته: از فعل های جایگزین To get یا To Become لطفا استفاده نفرمایید و با همین فعل To be ترجمه نمایید.

اگر هنوز متوجه ابهام نشده اید، من عذر خواهی می کنم.
26-08-2007, 23:26
www.babakebadi.com

There is a confusion

how can I delete a message, if I don't want to post it?
27-08-2007, 07:36
Gole_sang

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There is a confusion

برای پیدا کردن ابهام ترجمه هایی که زحمت کشیده بودید، اگر ممکن است، این ها را به انگلیسی ترجمه کنید:

کار هر روز ساعت 2 انجام می شود. ( زمان حال ساده)The work is done everyday at 2 o'clock

کار انجام شده است. ( زمان گذشته نقلی)the work has been done

کار الان در حال انجام شدن است. ( زمان حال استمراری)the work is being done

و حالا بفرمایید The food is ready آیا هنوز همان غذا حاضر آماده است می شود؟! یا شاید می شود: غذا حاضر می شود.

نکته: از فعل های جایگزین To get یا To Become لطفا استفاده نفرمایید و با همین فعل To be ترجمه نمایید.

اگر هنوز متوجه ابهام نشده اید، من عذر خواهی می کنم.

I can't find any problem either.
I think ur problem is about simple and continuous present.
Look if it helps u
you can't make a present countionues when your main verb is "to be"
how do you translate these?
I'm hungry!!
i'm tired!!
the food is ready!!!
you're talking about present and that's all
look at this one
It's amazing!!!!
ING form, but it's not a verb.
and I'm a student!!!
you see?
من گرسنمه. مطمئنا همیشه گرسنه نیستی، منظور الانه
من خستم
من دانش آموززززززم (استمراری)
و غذا حاضره. غذا هم همیشه نمی تونه حاضر باشه، فکر کنم در اون صورت یه always لازم داره
و معنی شاید و آینده هم نمیده.
نکته دیگه. ترجمه درست همیشه احتیاج به پترن داره. یعنی تا ندونی کجایی و داری چی میگی، نمیتونی ترجمه 100% درست انجام بدی :46:
(اگه غلط دیکته ای هست ببخشید. من دیکته ام افتضاحه)
27-08-2007, 08:16
Gole_sang

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نوشته شده توسط bakhishman [ برای مشاهده لینک ، با نام کاربری خود وارد شوید یا ثبت نام کنید ]

hi any body I always have problem with gramer .im not bad in vocabulary good in prunancing and prefect in listening.I dont have a good self confidence in speaking because I afraid of grametic mistake all the time .and right now I dont know if I have any grametic mistake in this small text.

I dont know what to do

I have this problem ,too.
but these days I'm improving, I'm leaping actually.
If you live in tehran and have some extra time to spend in classes, just send me private msg.
coz I don't like to publicize :5:

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