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نقل قول:wow, then I'm more eager to hear yr accent
well, I'm sorta familiar with British accent it shouldn't be a big deal...besides, I've got both birtish n american prononciation Dictionary n it can be solved...
definitleyنقل قول:
so if more than one teacher would correct the listening it would havea better result
:10:...hi pals
I have a complementary suggestion for
( this new idea ( recording the voice
:20:my suggestion is uploading the text of your speaking with your media file
I think it helps the other guys to understand your voice better
...and according to that , they will help you better
your view about this suggestion, will make me happy
:11::11:
نقل قول:do agree:11:l
hi gyus
i'm newbi in english
i,m gonna join to your group
what's your plan for future?
sorry dear teachers, sepid12ir and singleguy, why don`t you start the new structure which everybody agreed with?
نقل قول:I'm not a teacher I'm a learner:31:. I'm still studying interchange1:31:
.by the way, In each month we have 2 periods, and we want to start from the second period (Tir 14th). and If we add speaking to our schedule we should change the schedule a little, so I'm waiting for Sepideh's and your order to change the schedule
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If you follow the posts these days, you find out that we are talking about adding speaking activity to our schedule and we have other activities as well (you can read them in the first post)
have fun
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i think they are waiting for more studentنقل قول:
or mabye their exam didn't finish or mabye this class started at fall
like school class:21::21:
نقل قول:no!!
this class start in 14-th of this mounth and we must waiting yet
i know thatنقل قول:
i'm just kidding
hi dear friends!
! finally i took my damnable exam (konkoor) & now i'm ready to do activities here !!
hiنقل قول:
hi guys can i ask whats this in english?
دروغ گو دشمن خداست
lier is enemy of god
is that right?
i think u should ask ur question here :
have a good timeنقل قول:
کد:http://forum.p30world.com/showthread.php?t=243045&page=311
نقل قول:ow yes, i know you kiddin i say for or frind(JEFF_HARDY)to know
u r absolutely rightنقل قول:
my suggestion is uploading the text of your speaking with your media file
I think it helps the other guys to understand your voice better
...and according to that , they will help you better
your view about this suggestion, will make me happy
but how about that group leaders select
? a specific text and we all speak that out
thanks a lot 4 correction ,i had confusion about that while writing itنقل قول:
i agree
i have the same condition i dont like to stay in the same condition:41: ,rather i like to learn and speak only one of the correctlyنقل قول:
well, i have a mixture of american and english accent, but ill try to work on my english
as i told before mine is a miixed one and also a poor one !!نقل قول:
wow, then I'm more eager to hear yr accent
so,dont expect from me a prefect british accent
:31:
that,s very niceنقل قول:
well, I'm sorta familiar with British accent it shouldn't be a big deal...besides, I've got both birtish n american prononciation Dictionary n it can be solved...
:11:
I agree with a specific subjectنقل قول:
...:46:but about specific text
I think for us , improvisation is more useful than
...memorizing
...anyway , it depend on majority's view
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hey guys
what's your level in english ?
i don't understand your sentences very well
i study intro itnterchange unit 12
tnx
نقل قول:Hi my friend...Don't worry about your level. I'm studying interchange 1:46:
The vocabulary book that we study is Elementary Vocabulary and the grammar book that we study is English grammar in use and for each listening activity I'll prepare 3 listenings in 3 levels (easy, medium, hard) and for writing activity we choose a subject and you should write about that
so don't worry about your level My English is not really good too
:10:
okنقل قول:
i have both of those books
tnx alot
نقل قول:ow,i have not any of books:41:
??is necessary to have this books
i also dont have themنقل قول:
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??is necessary to have this books
but u can download th E version of 2 of them
from 1st page of this group
here:
[PHP]http://forum.p30world.com/showthread.php?t=289062[/PHP]
No advanced levels yet???
intermediateنقل قول:
what's your level in english
hi guys
I wanna to join this group
but my level is interchange :19:1
can i join this group???
why not ? wellcomeنقل قول:
you must write one of the two under sentenceنقل قول:
I wanna to join this group
I wanna join this group
or
I want to join this group
Wanna = Want to
Wanna to = Want to to
Hi there...Finally I started the first activity of summer:5:
The schedule tell us that we should start from tomorrow but we start from today (because I misread the schedule and told all of you, we start from Tir 14th [ برای مشاهده لینک ، با نام کاربری خود وارد شوید یا ثبت نام کنید ] )
Thanks to dear Masoudrejae and Mohammad88 who helped me typing this reading:11:
Please [ برای مشاهده لینک ، با نام کاربری خود وارد شوید یا ثبت نام کنید ] read the first post in order to find out what you should do for the reading activity
The reading is so long and pretty hard but it's really beautiful and it improves your English and you have enough time to do your activity
you must finish your activity till Tir 18th
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Amie Zesair-French writer (1913- )
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Culture Shock
By bob Weinstein
From the Boston Glob
Saying Tamara Blackmore experienced culture shock when she arrived here last September is an understatement. It was more like culture trauma(1) for this adventurous student who left Melbourne's Monash University to spend her junior year at Boston College (BC). Blackmore, 20 , was joined at BC by 50 other exchange students from around the world. Like the thousands of exchange students who enroll in American colleges each year, Blackmore discovered firsthand(2) there is a sea of difference(3) between reading about and experiencing America firsthand. She felt the difference as soon as she stepped off the plane.
As soon as she landed in Boston, Blackmore could feel the tension in the air. She was about to test a lifestyle (4) far more hectic than the one she left. "driving in Boston is crazy", says Blackmore. "It took me a while to get used to the roads and the driving style here. I was always afraid someone was going to hit me. It was particularly tricky since the steering wheel was on the wrong side of the car. In Australia it's on the right side. "Beyond the cars and traffic jams, Blachmore said it took a while to get used to so many people in one place, all of whom seemed like they were moving at warp speed(5).
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There are only 18 million people in Australia spread out over an entire country," she says," compared to more than six million people in the state of Massachusetts alone. We don't have the kind of congestion you have in Boston. There is a whole different perception of space."
The pressing problem for Blackmore was making a quick adjustment to the American lifestyle that felt like it was run by a stopwatch. For this easygoing Australian, Americans seemed like perpetual-motion machines(6). "Americans are very time-oriented," Blachmore says. "Everything is done according to a schedule. They're always busy, which made me feel guilty about waiting to just sit around and occasionally watch television. Australians, on the other hand, value their leisure time. The pace there is a lot slower because we don't feel the need to always be busy. It's not that Australians are lazy, it's just that they have different concept of how time should be spent. Back home, I used to spend a lot more time just talking to my friends."
It didn't take long for Blackmore to adjust to American rhythms(7). "I felt the pressure to work harder and do more because everyone was running around doing so much," she says. When BC students weren't huddled over books, Blackmore found it odd that they were compulsively jogging, running, biking, or doing aerobics in order to be thin. "Compared to home, the girls here are very skinny," she says. "Before I got here, I heard a lot of stories about the pressure to be thin and that many young American women have eating disorders. I'll go out with a friend and just tuck into a good meal(8) and have a good time, whereas an American girl would just pick at her food.(9)"
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When it comes to drinking, Blackmore says Australian have a lot more freedom. "we are more casual about drinking at home," she says , "whereas there are many rules and regulations attached to when and where you can drink in the united states," not to mention a legal drinking age of 21 compared with Australia's legal drinking age of 18.
But it’s BC's laid-back(10) and friendly learning environment that sets it apart from her Melbourne college experience.” Generally speaking, learning facilities are a lot better in Boston,” she says. “In Australia, students and teachers have little contact outside the classroom. It’s a formal and depersonalized relationship. College is a place you go for a few hours every day and then go home. Your social life and school life are separate.”
It’s just the opposite at BC, according to Blackmor. “BC students and faculty are like one big happy family,” she says. “There is real sense of team spirit. It’s like we’re all in this together. Going to school here is a lifestyle, whereas at home we’re just a number. We attend school to get a degree so we can graduate, get a job, and get on with our lives(11).”
.Another pleasant shocker(12) was the close and open relationships American students enjoy with their teachers. It's a sharp contrast to Australia, where college students keep a discreet but respectful distance from their teachers. "I was surprised when I learned students go out to dinner with their lectures," she says. "We just don't do that back home. Professors deal with hundreds of students and you're lucky if they remember your name."
When Blackmore returns to Australia at the end of the school year, she'll have plenty of memories, most of them good ones. BC, like most American colleges, has gone out of its way to create a memorable experience for Blackmore and its other exchange studentsَ. .
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(1)
Culture trauma: extreme form of "culture shock"
(2)
Discovered firsthand: learned by directly seeing or experiencing
(3)
Sea of difference: very big difference
(4)
Test a lifestyle experience a way of life
(5)
Moving at warp speed: traveling very, very quickly
(6)
Perpetual-motion machines: machines that never stop moving
(7)
Adjust to American rhythms: get used to American lifestyle
(8)
Tuck into a good meal: enjoy a meal (Australian expression)
(9)
Pick at her food: eat only small amount of food on her plate
(10)
Laid back: relaxed
(11)
Get on with our lives: move ahead in our lives
(12)
Shocker: surprise
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I don't know why the second half of the first post vanished away!!!:13::19:
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But there is enough information about reading activity there.
I'm going to complete the first post as soon as possible
Summary Of The Reading
The reading is about an Australian girl called Tamara Blackmore who experienced culture shock by spending the junior year in an American college. She felt the difference of culture from the first moment that she was getting off the plane. American lives was very strange for Blackmore such as being time-oriented and Americans was always busy while Australians didn't feel to be busy.
one of the other things that was very odd for Blackmore was the American women who had eating disorders in order to be thin and skinny.
The difference between the legal drinking age in Australia and America was also another strange thing for Blackmore and The most thing that made Blackmore surprised was the relationship between students and teachers...!!! they all were like a big happy family
most of American colleges have gone out of their way to make a memorable experience for all Blackmores
could one of the masters in this forum like sepid12ir or JEFF_HARDY or linhu or SCYTHE or..... tell me my mistakes?!!!
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New Words(for me)
Understatement
Meaning: the practice of making things less important
Example: my speeches about myself always are understatement
Culture shock
M: a feeling of confusion and anxiety that someone experiences when they visit another country
Trauma
M: a mental condition caused by sever shock
Adventurous
M: willing to take risks and try new ideas
Ex: Some of my friends always want to be more adventurous
Junior
M: connected with the year before last year in a high school or university
Ex: I'm spending my junior year
Exchange students
M: students who go to high schools or universities outside of their home country
Enroll
M: to arrange to officially join some where
Ex: I have to enroll in university course
Tension
M: a feeling of anxiety and stress that make it impossible to be relax
Ex: I feel an unusual tension before all exams
Hectic
M: very busy
Ex: all of us have to deal with a hectic life
Tricky
M: difficult to do or deal with
Ex: fighting more than 3 minutes is tricky in competitions
Steering
M: the machinery in a vehicle that you use to control the direction it goes
Ex: I loosed the control of the steering when my car crashed
Congestion
M: the state of being crowded and full of traffic
Ex: Tehran has the most congestion in Iran
Perception
M: The way you notice things
Ex: just a few people have the real perception of love
Space
M: the freedom and time to think or do what you want
Adjustment
M: a small change made to something in order to correct or improve it
Ex: I've made some adjustments to my daily schedule
Perpetual motion
Ex: the heart is a perpetual motion muscle in our body
Guilty
M: feeling ashamed because you have done sth wrong
Ex: I always have a guilty feeling when I cheat in exams
Occasionally
M: sometimes but not often
Ex: I occasionally want to be online
pace
M: the speed that sth happens
Ex: my pace in studying is really slow
Concept
M: an idea connected with sth
Ex: the concept of people about politics is different from each other
Huddle
M: hold your arms and legs close to your body
Ex: I often huddle over my dreams
Odd
M: strange and unusual
Ex: the most odd thing for me is that I never can be successful
Compulsive
M: difficult to stop or control
Ex: she was so beautiful that everyone was watching her, compulsively
Skinny
M: very thin
Disorder
M: public violence
Eating disorder
M: a medical condition caused by intense fear of being overweight
Regulation
M: rule
Ex: Universities have some funny regulations in Iran
Set sth apart
M: to make sth different from others
Ex: his hairstyle sets him apart from others
Depersonalize
M: to make sth less personal
Faculty
M: all the teachers of a university or college
Ex: most of the teachers in azad university faculty can't teach as well as the teachers in the high school
Spirit
M: feeling
Ex: nothing is as powerful as the love spirit in the world
Sharp
M: clear
Ex: there was a sharp difference between votes in the election
Discreet
M: careful in what you say or you do, in order to keep sth secret
Ex: there is a discreet relationship between most of friends
Lecturer
M: a person who teaches in a university or college
Ex: he is a lecturer in math at our university
Go out of its away
M: to make a special effort to do sth
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now its your turn
have fun
Single Boy
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نقل قول:dude its truly an honer, and i don`t know why you keep sayying you have forgotten English structure, you write as a native!
OK, things i thought could be told in a better way in my opinion are onderlined in red, and i tried to be picky ,so tell me where im wrong please
American lives: The american`s lifestyle
had eating: eat or were eating
most thing that made Blackmore surprised: the most surprising thing for blackmore was...
Hi there. It's my turn :20:
Summary Of The Reading
This reading is about culture shock.An Australian girl called Tamara Blackmore who left Melbourne's Monash University to spend her junior year at Boston College In America and who experienced the culture shock. Blackmore had read about American culture but she didn't know what she read about that is difference from experiencing that.She felt a sea of difference as soon as she arrived at America. First difference that she felt was about driving.The steering wheel was on the wrong side of the car whereas in Australia that's on the right side.The American ways were very busy with heavy traffic. American people were like a machine and they were always busy but in Australia it was difference. The other thing which she felt was about American women who were very skinny that is why they had eating disorders. They always just picked at her food while she always tucked into a good meal with her friend. In America was many rules for drinking like the legal drinking age was 21 but in Australia was more freedom about it, the legal drinking age was 18. And she saw some other differences at there which were about relationship between teachers and students at college and this difference made Blackmore surprised more than other differences. At the end of the school year Blackmore returned to Australia with many memories.
New Words
(for me)
understatement
Culture trauma
trauma
junior
exchange
enroll
Test a lifestyle
Sea of difference
Discovered firsthand
land
tension
hectic
particularly
tricky
steering
Moving at warp speed
spread out
congestion
perception
easygoing
perpetual-motion machines
orient
leisure
Adjust to American rhythms
huddled
compulsively
jogging
skinny
disorder
tuck into a good meal
pick at her food
casual
regulations
legal
laid-back
apart
facilities
depersonalized
faculty
spirit
attend
pleasant
shocker
discreet
respectful
deal
Get on with our lives
tie
Please tell me my mistakes :11:
Maybe if god wants I'll make sentences with my new words which I learned from the reading :46:
Goodbye. Thanks
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Summary Of The Reading
The reading is about an Australian girl called Tamara Blackmore who experienced culture shock by spending the junior year in an American college. She felt the difference of culture from the first moment that she was getting off the plane. American lives was very strange for Blackmore such as being time-oriented and Americans was always busy while Australians didn't feel to be busy.
one of the other things that was very odd for Blackmore was the American women who had eating disorders in order to be thin and skinny.
The difference between the legal drinking age in Australia and America was also another strange thing for Blackmore and The most thing that made Blackmore surprised was the relationship between students and teachers...!!! they all were like a big happy family
most of American colleges have gone out of their way to make a memorable experience for all Blackmores
hey, thanks
I actually dun like to go thru the mistakes in reading activity with details, just some which I think are worth mentioning
thanks to Jeff also for his nice consideration; n let me approve of wot he said singleguy, u r an absolutely a great English learner
that she was getting off the plane : that she got of the plane I think is a better choice rather than using Past Continious
strange for Blackmore: strange to Blackmore
btw Dear Jeff, Singleguy has used 'eating' here as a noun n it seems to be correctکد:had eating: eat or were eating
to have eating disorder
نقل قول:Hey dude. to be honest, i think you have really improved since last time i had the honer of correcting yout writting. these were the things i thought might be abit problem maker in your writting, tell me where im wrong please
wholeft: left
and who experienced: experienced
she read about that is difference : she read about is different from
experiencing that: experiencing it
American ways: American highways, american reads
had eating : were eating, ate
In America was many rules: in America there were many rules
at there : there
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i don`t findany order when i check it,i feel like its just lacking something, it should be at leastنقل قول:
btw Dear Jeff, Singleguy has used 'eating' here as a noun n it seems to be correct
to have eating disorde
نقل قول:
had been eating
as far as i know
نقل قول:have a look at Oxford dic n look up the word 'eating'
it's noun: to have eating disorders; that's exactly the emaple of oxford
but the rest of the sentence doesn't seem to be correct:it could be 'she was too skinny bcuz of having eating disorders'; makes sense, but 'to have eating disorders in order to'...doesn't make sense; it's like u r saying the eating diorder has been of some benfits to her while such a thing is not logical...u gotta correct it Singleguy, wot did u want to say?!lنقل قول:
American women who had eating disorders in order to be thin and skinny.
Summary of "cultural shock"This reading is about a girl called Tamara Blackmore that she has entered a new environment for continuing her graduation .She has faced many problems that we named it "cultural shock" .First of all, driving rules and regulations made her surprised. Then, the intimate and friendly relationship between teachers and students was very different from her country.
MY SUMERY OF THE READING
The reading as whole is about culture shock. Tamara Blackmore was one of the exchange students from an Australian university to Boston university of America. She has shared with readers her firsthand experience of culture shock which she herself faced it while passing her junior year far from her country in America. Blackmore compared extensively the two cultures, Australian culture versus American culture, and the difficulties one would face while shifting from one culture or country to another. According to her American people was more time oriented and busy than Australian who was seemed to have more free time. Women in America were slim and skinny as they were not eating properly, this was not so with Australian women. Faculty in American universities had more friendly and open relations with the students as compared to Australian teachers who were formal and strict. There were much more new things for her in American culture which surprised her. But in her point of view studying in Boston University and living among Americans was a happy and nice experience for her.
NEW WORDS
Enroll=register
Hectic=busy, active
Get used to=become familiar with through experience
Tricky=difficult, complicated
Steering wheel=device for guiding the car
Warp speed=very rapid speed
Perception= sense, understanding
Pressing problem=under pressure; urgent
Easygoing=relaxed; loving comfort and ease
Huddled=crowded together
Compulsively=compelling
Jogging=act of pushing or shaking
Skinny=thin, lean, slim
Tuck into=eat food heartily
Pick at=eat slowly, eat very little
Casual=random, accidental
Laid-back=relaxed, calm
Depersonalized relationship= formal relationship
Get on with=be successful in one's life or career
Discreet=careful,respectful
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summery of reading
thise reading is about an Australian girl called tamara blackmore who experienced culture shock. she spending her junior year in an American college. tamara compare culture shock in australia with america and she perceiv that life in America is verry diffrence than Australia such as driving , relationship between students and their theacherss and ... . this diffrence was verry attractive
for tamara blackmore.
this is my mind about this reading i know this text is full of
:31:mistake
please tell me my mistake:11:
نقل قول:good, hope next time u chose a better font:31:...
she has entered a new environment for continuing: she has entered a new enviroment to continue her education( here u r talking about the purpose of sth, so u have to use 'to' not 'for')l
Reyhane's Summary
wow, how perfect u r Reyhane, so we ... u just summed it up very beautifully with nice structuresنقل قول:
The reading as whole is about culture shock. Tamara Blackmore was one of the exchange students from an Australian university to Boston university of America. She has shared with readers her firsthand experience of culture shock which she herself faced it while passing her junior year far from her country in America. Blackmore compared extensively the two cultures, Australian culture versus American culture, and the difficulties one would face while shifting from one culture or country to another. According to her American people was more time oriented and busy than Australian who was seemed to have more free time. Women in America were slim and skinny as they were not eating properly, this was not so with Australian women. Faculty in American universities had more friendly and open relations with the students as compared to Australian teachers who were formal and strict. There were much more new things for her in American culture which surprised her. But in her point of view studying in Boston University and living among Americans was a happy and nice experience for her
the only thing which I noticed:
American people was more time oriented and busy than Australian who was seemed to have more free time: American people were more ... Australian who seemed to have more free time
perfect, Good luck:11:l
Mahsa's Summary
don't worry about yr mistakes dear Mahsa, just have a look at them:نقل قول:
thise reading is about an Australian girl called tamara blackmore who experienced culture shock. she spending her junior year in an American college. tamara compare culture shock in australia with america and she perceiv that life in America is verry diffrence than Australia such as driving , relationship between students and their theacherss and ... . this diffrence was verry attractive
for tamara blackmore
she spending: she was/is/has been spending - since u r describing her situation it's best to use past continious
tamara compare: Tamara compares/compared - again u gotta chose yr tense?! past or present?!l
different than Australia: different from Australia
good luck guys:11:l
thanks dear sepidehنقل قول:
American people was more time oriented and busy than Australian who was seemed to have more free time: American people were more ... Australian who seemed to have more free time
actually it was the MS WORD that highlighted my sentence of(people were...)and suggested me to correct it to(people was...)anyhow ,now i learned not to trust the microsoft word always!!:31: but trust my own abilities...best wishes
نقل قول:no, about Grammar structure the Microsoft Word is not reliable, but for spelling it's perfect
Hi
Thanks Mr Jeff for telling my mistakes
:11:
As you know my coin is thwart and because of this reason I have some questions about my mistakes
:31:
I wanted to say thisنقل قول:
Tamara Blackmore who left Melbourne's Monash University
یک دختر استرالیایی که اسمش تامارا بلاکموره ، کسی که ترک کرد ملبورن رو و...
why can't I use "who" in this sentence
نقل قول:
An Australian girl called Tamara Blackmore who left Melbourne's Monash University to spend her junior year at Boston College In America and who experienced the culture shock.
نقل قول:
well if it is not correct so plz tell me when I want to say
" کسی که شوک فرهنگی رو تجربه کرد"
what word shall I use ? why
I actually cant understand which one is correctWHY ???نقل قول:
had eating disorders
or
ate disorders
or
were eating disorders
I have another question about stracture .. . Can anyone explain me about it and tell me how I can learn it
Thank my masters
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نقل قول:Dun really like to interfere in Dear Jeff's job, but I think 'who' is correct...let me read it over n over...
I doubt now:31:...but seems to be correct, maybe if u had written "Tamara Blackmore is an Australian girl who left..." this sounds more natural but yr own one seems to be correct...maybe I'm wrongنقل قول:
An Australian girl called Tamara Blackmore who left Melbourne's Monash University to spend her junior year at Boston College In America and who experienced the culture
n about 'eating' again u were right...to have eating disorders or to suffer from eating disorders...
u n singleguy both have used 'eating' as a noun so yr sentence has no problem
نقل قول:wow...
your English is so good...
excellent:20:
but I have a problem in this word: Jogging.
Is your definition right?
I guess you meant Joggle
I found these definitions in my dictionary:
Joggle:to move or to make sb/sth move quickly up and down or from one side to another
Jog: to run slowly and steadily for a long time, especially for exercise
sorry... I'm not sure because I'm so weak in English. If I'm not right please tell me
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