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ali.
11-03-2004, 05:38 AM
قبلا تاپيكي مربوط به دموي اين بازي ايجاد شده بود كه به دليل منحرف شدن بحث از موضوع اصلي خودش در اون تاپيك من اين تاپيك جديد رو ايجاد كردم:
بله آقايون بالاخره اين بازي وارد ايران هم شد و من در اولين فرصت يك نسخشو آماده كردم (خيلي باهاله) :)
http://www.baziha.com/FIFA2005/10.jpg
و حالا بشنويد تفسير اين بازي رو از سايت بازيها دات كام:
چند وقت پيش وقتي که FIFA 2004 وارد بازارشد از شرکت کنامي هيچ صدايي در نيومد تا اين که چند روز گذشت و تبليغات فيفا داشت تازه نتيجه ميداد که شرکت کنامي بازي يازده برنده رو داد بيرونو تبليغات و نقشه هاي فيفا رو بهم زد و توجه همگان را به خود جلب کرد . تبليغات فيفا رو بي اثر کرد و به قول معروف نون فيفا رو آجر کرد .......

و اينک فيفا براي ينکه اون ضرر رو جبران کنه با کمي تغيير چشم گير روي فيفا 2004 گيمي رو به بازار داد که بدون تبليغ مورد توجه همگان قرار گرفت .... لازم به ذکر است که بگم تغييراتي مثل : گرافيک بازي به حد خيلي بالايي رسيده ..... کنترل بازي خيلي ساده و روان شده ..... همچنين تغييراتي در تيمها و قدرت آنها انجام داده شده است.... و چهره بازيکنها از اون حالت کارتوني و مسخره در اومده و به حالت مطلوبي رسيده ........

توضيحات بازي :

تو اين بازي هم مثل نسخه هاي ديگر ميتونين تيمهاي باشگاهي و کشوري انتخاب کنيد ...

تيمهاي باشگاهي مختلف از ليگهايي مثل : بوندس ليگاي 1و2 .... سري A و B ايتاليا و لاليگي 1 و2 ..... و چندين تيم از ليگهاي معتبر دنيا ............

ساختن تيم و بازيکن مورد علاقه و ترانسفر بازيکن مورد نظر ...........

در مورد گرافيک بازي بايد گفت که زمين فوتبال ، کاراکترها نيز از پيشرفت هاي نسبتا خوبي بهره مند شده است. اما اگر شما نسخه هاي قبل اين بازي را انجام داده باشيد يک نقص بسيار بزرگ در آن وجود داشت آن هم تماشگر هاي بازي بودن که خيلي ابتدايي و بي اساس طراحي شده بودن و ميشه گفت که طراحي تماشاگران مثل بازي سگا بود که در اين نسخه اين عيب گرفته شده است و ميشه گفت که تماشاگران به صورت کاملا حرفه اي طراحي شده اند....

دومين شاهکار فيفا در اين گيم طراحي چمن بازي هست چمن بطوري طراحي شده که شما از بازي خود لذت مي بريد وهيچ وقط از بازي خسته و زده نمي شيد...............

در باره موزيک ها و صداگذاري هاي بازي بيد گفت که مثل نسخه هاي قبل از موزيک هاي جذاب و صداگذاري هاي قويي استفاده شده است ..........

در پايان اين بازي رو به تموم کسايي که اين سبک بازي رو دوست دارن پيشنهاد ميکنم....... :wink:



در اينجا هم تريپ بازيكنها رو از زواياي مختلف بررسي كنيد:

http://www.fifatainment.de/fifa4fans/downloads/screens5/1860muenchen_kitpack_1.jpg

ali.
11-03-2004, 05:42 AM
كدها و رمزهاي مربوط به اين بازي به زبان اصلي:

FIFA SOCCER 2005
[First Touch Control Guide]
X-Box Version

By: Chocolate Sushi



1. Intro
2. Button Definitions
3. Essential Knowledge
4. The Meat
I. Basic Tricks
II. Advanced Tricks
III. Trapping and Flicks
Extra: The Fake Shot
5. End, Copyrights, Contact, etc.



1. INTRO
Hello, thank you for the interest. This is my first FAQ, so not much flair,
just the bare essentials needed to pull off those cool new tricks in FIFA
Football 2005. Note that this guide also pertains to the PS2, PC, and GC
versions of this game. I hope this aids anyone who enjoys football games and
the new FIFA by EA Sports. Hopefully, this FAQ will allow you enjoy FIFA 2005
to the fullest.



2. BUTTON DEFINITIONS

Left Stick: LS
-Controls your player’s basic movement.

Right Stick: RS
-Controls your player’s First Touch Control.

Left Trigger: LT
-Secondary input. Calls in another defender when defending.

Right Trigger: RT
-Sprint.

X- Lobbed Pass/Cross (hold LT and press X for Early Cross, double tap for
Low Hard Cross)
A- Regular Pass (hold LT and press A for a Manual Pass)
B- Shoot (hold LT and press B for a Chip Shot)
Y- Through Pass (hold LT and press Y for a Lobbed Through Pass)



3. ESSENTIAL KNOWLEDGE

The most important thing is to focus on your basic movement with the LS.
Your basic movement dictates the direction of where you are going to place
your first touch and perform tricks. A lot of first touch controls can
actually by done by just using the normal LS movement stick. For example;
while moving forward, simply rotate on the LS and you will do a shield turn
giving you space/protecting the ball from a chasing defender. Other moves can
be done in similar fashion by just the LS that have no particular special
input. Some players can even do First Touch Control automatically by
just maneuvering the LS (spins, flicks, etc). It is essential that you get
fully acquainted with the feel of the movement system on the training pitch.
That said, on to the moves.



4. THE MEAT

Move in regular (dribbling) speed to perform skill moves BEFORE sprinting into
the ball. Most of there moves are done while dribbling, not sprinting unless
stated. The faster your going, the more difficult it is to perform the trick
successfully. Also, you can release the movement stick to walk/edge the ball
before you execute the maneuver and sprint into the ball.

All moves done with the RS. Input depends on the DIRECTION YOU ARE FACING at
the time. You can execute these moves traveling from any direction, So if you
are moving to the right for instance, then BACK = Left on the RS, FORWARD =
Right on the RS, UP = Up, DOWN = Down. Going left would be the opposite. Going
up across field (towards the top of the screen) would have BACK = Down, Forward
= Up, UP = Left, DOWN = Right with the same for going down across the screen.
I suggest trying these out going right first.

All advanced moves can be done directly or in quarter-circle fashion
(Hadouken or Shoryuken input from Street Fighter) with exception of the Skip,
Full Preki, and Pull Back.



I. Basic Tricks:

These are a good starting point for you to get aquainted. Often, they are very
useful for toying with the opposition. They can also be directly linked right
after you pull them to an advanced move, setting you up for a great fake.

BACK = Lift Ball

Application: Good for keeping the ball away from stealing legs when a defender
in on your flank. You can also take an elevated shot right after lifting.

FORWARD = Step-Over

Application: Used when running and a man is pacing you from the flank. Can
mess his tackle up and get you forward.

UP/DOWN = Drag Roll

Application: A useful move that gives you just enough space to make an oncoming
defender run past you, or draw a defender in a direction for a linked fake.



II. Advanced Tricks:

These take a bit more composure and practice to pull off gloriously. Study and
work hard on the training pitch to perfect them.

BACK+FORWARD = Skip Hop Forward

Application: Good for out-pacing a incoming marker from the side, or one who is
sliding in. You and the ball leave the ground and move forward.

BACK+UP/DOWN = Lift and Control in a Direction

Application: Can also be used to pass off if you are close to a team mate. This
is good for putting the ball around an oncoming man or moving it away from a
man on your side.

FORWARD+BACK = Pull Back Reverse

Application: Useful when moving at dribbling speed to get space from your
marker who is on you from the side, or to quickly reverse direction.

FORWARD+UP/DOWN = Scissors

Application: A diagonal movement that gets you in space or away from a chasing
man. Also works for beating an oncoming man.

UP/DOWN+BACK = Diagonal Flick

Application: Another useful trick. This lifts and pops the ball forward off to
either side. Good for making space or shaking a defender coming in from the
side.

UP/DOWN+ FORWARD = Maradona Turn

Application: A spin while protecting the ball. Has to be timed right with the
movement of the defender, but is very good for rolling off your man or just
confusing the opposition.


UP/DOWN+UP/DOWN = Full Preki (UP+DOWN or DOWN+UP)

Application: A great move for stepping around the ball and going opposite.
Best used against oncoming defenders.

RT+FORWARD = Push Into Space

Application: Probably the move you’ll use the most. it’s a sprint while
pushing the ball ahead of you. Makes you loads of space and distance.
Beware of men ahead of you though, as defenders will come out and steal
the ball if your too close.

RT+UP/DOWN = Body Swerve

Application: Like the Push into Space, this gives you distance but at an angle.
Good for moving past a man in front of you when you fake going one way, and
execute the Swerve the other.

RT+BACK = Stop and Pull Back Reverse

Application: One of my personal favorites. Excellent for faking the opposition,
especially since if your sprinting, they’ll be sprinting with you. This does
just as the title suggests; stops, kicks the ball back, and reverses. Just have
to watch any lagging defenders behind you.



III. Trapping and Flicks

This section deals with controlling from a pass. There is no real defined
moves to list, just general ones regarding the direction of your first touch
and LS movement.

In general, pressing the RS in the direction you want to go will put the ball
off in that direction. Depending on the incoming ball, your position, and
selected player’s skill, you’ll perform the appropriate flick/trap.

For instance, pressing back away from the direction of the ball might give you
a neat flick over your head and down if all is right, or just a trap low and
kick back. Pressing forward, might give you a chest down or a nod forward;
sideways, a simple touch. It all depends. The key thing is to watch the
incoming defender and trap in the direction away from him, this can open up
just enough room for you to get by. Its best to play with these yourself on the
training pitch using players of varying skill to get the feel.

There is one rule about controlling the ball from a lob; its easier to flick up
and over, or do a more advanced touch if the ball bounces before you touch it,
or a man is near you.



Extra: The Fake Shot

This isn’t really a First Touch Control, but I list and explain it here
because I feel it is a special maneuver and something most players won't know
how to use right away, but will add to you enjoyment.

The fake shot is executed by pressing the BLACK BUTTON. It is a handy move in
vein of the chip shot that helps you beat the goalkeeper. When executing, make
sure your distance is not so close to the keeper as he can just smother you,
but not so far as he can have time to watch the ball. I’ve found that it works
every time when the goalkeeper rushes you, but you’ve got to watch your
distance and not be too close if he does. It works even if he doesn't rush, but
you have to get close in without him coming out of goal. Also, be aware that
the direction you are facing will dictate the direction of the fake; a fake
that looks like its going away from goal will not trick the keeper into
reacting. The approximate distance for a good fake is illustrated in the
diagrams below.


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! !
X

O


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! !
X
O


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! !
X
O


O = You
X = Keeper


After a successful fake, the keeper will drop, leaving you time to run around
him or simply put the ball in the net!


5. END

That’s it! Thanks for reading. Now get to the training pitch and try these
moves yourself. Practice, practice, practice. Master them, and you’ll have some
potent stuff to unleash on the opposition. Good foot-balling, and I hope to
play you on LIVE!


Copyright: For informational use solely by GameFaqs.com and its affiliates. All
information is that of the writer and shall not be reproduced in any other work
without given permission. This FAQ is free for personal reproduction, not
public, as long as credit is given where it is due. [Oct 2004 Chocolate Sushi]


Version History: 3.0
10/24/04 The first edition 1.0
10/26/04 Revisions 1.5
10/27/04 Fake Shot diagram added 2.0
10/27/04 Clarifications, graphical adjustments 2.5
10/30/04 Trick names 3.0

Contact Info: t.young@email.com (please read the FAQ before you ask any
niggling questions.)

Thanks: To all the people who gave good input for the FAQ on the GameFaqs
message board, Strongsoccer.com, and to everyone who doesn't use Arsenal

A Chocolate Sushi Work 2004.




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*==================================\
Game FIFA FOOTBALL 2005 |
Guide Type Full Guide |
Platform GameCube |
Rating G |
Author TheMagicMushroom22 |
E-mail AstroMan_022@hotmail.com |
*==================================/

*=======\
CONTENTS |
*=======/
1. INTRODUCTION
2. CONTROLS
3. CAREER MODE
a. Getting Started
b. Career Central
i. Play Next Game
ii. Simulate Next Game
iii. Squad
iv. Options
v. Save Career
vi. Fixtures
vii. Tables
c. End of Season
4. MY FIFA 2005
a. My FIFA 2005 Store#
b. My FIFA 2005 Trophy Room
5. TIPS
a. Gameplay Tips#
b. Career Tips#
6. FORMATIONS & TACTICS
a. Formations
b. Tactics
7. FAQS*
8. CONCLUSION
9. VERSION HISTORY
10. CREDITS
11. COPYRIGHT

* Coming Soon
# Half Done

*==============\
1. INTRODUCTION |
*==============/
This FAQ/guide for FIFA 2005 is my second FAQ after I did FIFA 2004 last
year. I hope I can improve on last year's one as I have added tactics and
a more in depth Career Mode guide.
If you need any help with the game at all please feel free to e-mail me at
AstroMan_022@hotmail.com. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU FULLY READ THE GUIDE FIRST, as
last year I had heaps of e-mails which asked about things already covered in
the guide. Please be patient too, as I only go on the net once every couple of
days. Oh, and while this guide may be for GameCube, most of things are the
same except the controls and online so don't feel as if you can't e-mail me.


*==========\
2. CONTROLS |
*==========/

MENU NAVIGATION
--------------------------------------------------
HIGHLIGHT OPTION +Control Pad/Control Stick
--------------------------------------------------
SELECT HIGHLIGHTED A Button
OPTION/ADVANCE TO
NEXT SCREEN
--------------------------------------------------
BACK/PREVIOUS B Button
SCREEN
--------------------------------------------------
NEXT PAGE L/R Button
==================================================

GENERAL GAMEPLAY
--------------------------------------------------
MOVE PLAYER Control Stick
--------------------------------------------------
SPRINT Hold R Button+Control Stick
--------------------------------------------------
ACTIVATE IGM Hold Z+R Button
--------------------------------------------------
PAUSE GAME Start/Pause Button
==================================================

ATTACKING(with ball)
--------------------------------------------------
PASS/HEADER A Button
--------------------------------------------------
MANUAL THROUGH BALL L+A Button
--------------------------------------------------
SHOT/HEADER/VOLLEY/
CLEARANCE B Button
--------------------------------------------------
CHIP SHOT L+B Button
--------------------------------------------------
FAKE SHOT Hold Z Button
--------------------------------------------------
LOB/CROSS Normal X Button
--------------------------------------------------
EARLY CROSS L+X Button
--------------------------------------------------
LOW HARD CROSS Double Tap X Button
--------------------------------------------------
THROUGH BALL
(ASSISTED) Y Button
--------------------------------------------------
LOBBED THROUGH BALL L+Y Button
--------------------------------------------------
SKILL MOVES C Stick
==================================================

DEFENDING(without ball)
--------------------------------------------------
SWITCH PLAYER A Button
--------------------------------------------------
CONSERVATIVE TACKLE B Button
--------------------------------------------------
SLIDING TACKLE X Button
--------------------------------------------------
GOALIE CHARGE Y Button
==================================================

GOALKEEPER IN POSSESSION
--------------------------------------------------
MOVE/AIM KICK Control Stick
OR THROW
--------------------------------------------------
THROW A Button
--------------------------------------------------
HIGH KICK X/B Button
--------------------------------------------------
DROP BALL Y Button
==================================================

ATTACKING SET PIECES(direct free kicks & corners)
--------------------------------------------------
MOVE/AIM KICK Control Stick(direct free
kicks only)
--------------------------------------------------
MOVE PLAYER Control Stick
--------------------------------------------------
PRESET ROUTINE +Control Pad UP/DOWN and A to
select
--------------------------------------------------
PASS TO RECEIVER B/X/Y Button
--------------------------------------------------
BALL SPIN C Stick(direct free
kicks only)
--------------------------------------------------
JOSTLE C Stick(corners only)
--------------------------------------------------
SHOOT B/X/Y Button(direct free
kicks only)
==================================================

INDIRECT FREE KICK & GOAL KICK
--------------------------------------------------
AIM Control Stick
--------------------------------------------------
LONG PASS X/B Button(HOLD for power)
--------------------------------------------------
SHORT PASS A Button(HOLD for power)
==================================================

TAKING A THROW IN
--------------------------------------------------
MOVE RECIEVER Control Stick
--------------------------------------------------
CHANGE RECIEVER A Button
--------------------------------------------------
THROW X/Y Button
==================================================

TAKING A PENALTY KICK
--------------------------------------------------
AIM SHOT Control Stick
--------------------------------------------------
SHOOT B Button(HOLD for power)
==================================================

DEFENDING SET PIECES OTHER THAN PENALTY KICKS
--------------------------------------------------
MOVE PLAYER/WALL Control Stick
--------------------------------------------------
WALL JUMP X/Y/B Button
--------------------------------------------------
SWITCH PLAYER A Button
--------------------------------------------------
JOSTLE C-Stick
==================================================

DEFENDING A PENALTY KICK
--------------------------------------------------
DIVE Control Stick+B Button
==================================================


*=======================\
3. CAREER MODE BREAKDOWN |
*=======================/

In this section I will tell you what each menu and option does in Career
Mode and how to prolong your managerial career with your team(in other words,
how not to get fired).


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3.a GETTING STARTED
First choose Career Mode in the Game Modes section. You start off by naming
your career file, reading the details of what Career Mode is all about and
picking your look and name.

Now you're at a fairly important screen, where you pick the zone(out of 5)
that you want to play in. Then all the teams in that zone without a manager
will be up for selection. Don't expect to find Arsenal and company here
though. Just about all teams are in the lower divisions or are really poor at
the top level. If you aren't happy with the teams you can get some different
ones by going back out to the area select then going back into the team
select. You won't find many changes early on though.

The local newspaper is displayed next with your club and announcing it's new
manager and a little paragraph about you saying how good the club is or the
chairman saying what a great move they have made. But you won't let them down
will you? Of course not! Leading on to the club's expectations, these are
displayed next saying something like finish in the top half, get a top three
finish or win the league.

Up next is your staff which by using points you earn after each game or the
end of the season. You start out with 100 points and try to even them out at
first. Here's what I did:
Strikers 15
Midfield 15
Defence 15
Goalkeeping 15
Fitness Coach 10
Finance 10
Medical Staff 10
Scouting Staff 10

Once you build up to 100 points you gain a level and I think this is when
your players develop, when you go up a level. You gain points by winning(the
more goals you win by give you more points), the club giving you points
because they like the way your managing and end of season reward.


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3.b CAREER CENTRAL
Here is your main window displaying all things from your next game to your
job security and what team you just played and the result. This is what all
the menu options do:

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3.b.i PLAY NEXT GAME
Play your next opponent. You can have a last-minute fiddle with your team
here as well.

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3.b.ii SIMULATE NEXT GAME
Simulate your next game. You get updates of all bad
misses, crude tackles and goals. Press A to intervene if things are going
pear-shaped. This will take you to the current state of play.

*************************
3.b.iii SQUAD
Prepare your team for the upcoming game. You can change formation, put
unfit players in the reserves and put reserves on the bench. I change my team
after each game so fitness doesn't become a major worry.

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3.b.iv OPTIONS
There are a lot of options to choose from here:

- Tactics: See 6.b TACTICS

- Stats Central: You can look at each players individual performance and how
each team stacks up on passes completed etc.. You can also see the cups and
leagues your in as well as viewing the ECC and EFA results and tables in your
second year.

- Transfer Market: During the two transfer windows(preseason till early
September and during January) you can sell your players(of whom most should
have been bidded for) and buy some new players with your money.

- Upgrades: This takes you to the staff page where you can add your points to
improve your team. See 3.a for more info.

- Team Summary: View all your players skill ratings and so on. You can also
see other team's players.

- Manager Summary: View you record for each team you have been with throughout
your career and your rating.

- Game Settings: Contains all the options like volume and difficulty etc. Some
of these options aren't available in career but I've included them anyway.

- My Team: Select the team you support. They'll automatically appear when
you select Play Now with their rival.

- Half Length: Choose how long the half will go. Minimum of 2, maximum
of 10.

- Difficulty Level: Choose between Amateur(easiest) and World
Class(hardest).

- Game Speed: Select how fast the game will run.

- Injuries: Choose whether players can get injured.

- Offside: Select whether or not the offside rule is used.

- Bookings: Determines whether yellow or red cards will be handed out.

- Time/Score Display: Choose if you can see the scores and time on the
top corner of the screen.

- Player Status Bar: You can have the status bar show the player's name
or display nothing.

- Camera: Select which camera you want to use.

- Radar: Choose whether you want the radar in the way of the game or not.

- Rumble: Select on to get the vibration when tackled.

- Home/Away Auto Switching: I think this is how often the computer
automatically changes the player you are selecting to someone closer
to the ball. I usually have mine completely off, it does get very
annoying at times.

- Commentary/Game SFX/Menu Music Volume: Choose how loud the audio is.

- Set Pieces: Change all your set-pieces for corners and free-kicks
around the goal.

- My FIFA 2005 Store: See 5.a My FIFA 2005 Store.

- My FIFA 2005 Trophy Room: See 5.b My FIFA 2005 Trophy Room.

- Transaction History: This shows all of the transfers done in the
current transfer window by all clubs in all leagues, not just your own.

*************************
3.b.v SAVE CAREER
Saves your career file. This does take a while and doesn't save your game
settings.

*************************
3.b.vi FIXTURES
Press X at the Career Central menu and all of your upcoming fixtures will
be displayed. For some strange reason you have to fly to away cup games but
not when you play them away in a league game. Strange indeed.

*************************
3.b.vii TABLES
By pressing Y at the Career Central menu your league table pops up. You can
move across to select columns and by pressing Y you can sort all teams by
goals scored etc.


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3.c END OF SEASON
Many people will think oh it's the end of the season- I can get smashed and
relax but in FIFA 2005 there's none of that. You're tossed straight back in
to the action, kind of. First you'll see the newspaper saying how well you
went or not went. You'll either love reading this or not, if you faired
poorly.
Here comes the part that'll make or break you- the boards decision into
whether they want to keep you or not. I don't know what happens when you
don't reach their expectation but I guess it's that they will get rid of you
or if your lucky keep you on for another season. Your job security metre is
displayed next and the board adds percentage if you fulfilled their
expectations and it goes down if you disappointed.
Now you see the team select screen. If at first the team you want isn't
appearing go out to the area select and back in again and the teams change.
Once your team is selected the board shows you the expectations for this
year and then a paper announcing your re-signing or new home.
And that's basically it, you have only 14 more seasons or roughly 700 games
to go. Hopefully by then you can get to your dream club.


*==============\
4. MY FIFA 2005 |
*==============/
4.a MY FIFA 2005 STORE
This place has all of the unlockable kits, night stadiums, balls, songs and
Pierluigi Collina to unlock by spending your hard earned points. There are a
total of 80 items to unlock with a total of 391,000. The total for all the
objectives though is 422,000 so you may not have to do all of them.
The list is below and while I found some of these myself I'd like to thank
Syxx676 for contributing 90% of these as I didn't have most of them and the
time. Of course some are impossible for GCN owners like "Play Online" and
"Play A Football Fusion Match" but most are the same on all consoles. Thanks
again Syxx676!

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POINTS | OBJECTIVE |
----------------------------------------------
1000 | Go To Career Mode |
1000 | Go To Jukebox |
1000 | Go To Practice Mode |
1000 | Go To Set Pieces Screen |
1000 | Go To Tournament Creator Mode |
1000 | Go To Tournament Mode |
2000 | 5 Game Win Streak (Career) |
2000 | Beat A 5 star team |
2000 | Beat A Rival Team |
2000 | Get A Clean Sheet |
2000 | Play A Football Fusion match |
4000 | Qualify For Europe |
4000 | Play Online |
6000 | Create A Player |
6000 | Get Your Team Promoted |
6000 | Score A Hat Trick |
6000 | Win A Match With A National Team |
6000 | Win A PK Shootout |
6000 | Win by 5+ Goals |
6000 | Win The Austrian OFB Cup |
6000 | Win The Austrian Bundesliga |
6000 | Win The Belgian FA Cup |
6000 | Win The Belgian League |
6000 | Win The Brazilian Cup |
6000 | Win The Brazilian League |
6000 | Win The LDV Vans Trophy (England) |
6000 | Win The Community Shield (England) |
6000 | Win The Supercopa (Spain) |
6000 | Win The Copa de España (Spain) |
6000 | Win The Coppa Nazionale (Italy) |
6000 | Win The Coupe de France |
6000 | Win The Coupe de la Ligue (France) |
6000 | Win The DONG Cup |
6000 | Win The Danish Superligaen |
6000 | Win The Deutscher Pokal (Germany) |
6000 | Win The Dt. Super-Cup (Germany) |
6000 | Win The Dutch Cup |
6000 | Win The Dutch Eredivisie |
6000 | Win The ECC |
6000 | Win The EFA |
6000 | Win Football League Champ |
6000 | Win Football League One |
6000 | Win Football League Two |
6000 | Win The European Super Cup |
6000 | Win The English Cup |
6000 | Win The Scottish FA Cup |
6000 | Win The FA Premier League |
6000 | Win The German Bundesliga 1 |
6000 | Win The German Bundesliga 2 |
6000 | Win The K-League |
6000 | Win The League Cup (England) |
6000 | Win French Division 1 |
6000 | Win The French Division 2 |
6000 | Win The Mexican Apertura |
6000 | Win The MLS |
6000 | Win The MLS Open Cup |
6000 | Win The Norwegian FA Cup |
6000 | Win The Norwegian Tippeligaen |
6000 | Win The Portuguese Cup |
6000 | Win The Portuguese SuperLiga |
6000 | Win The Scottish Premier League |
6000 | Win The Italian Serie A |
6000 | Win The Italian Serie B |
6000 | Win The Spanish Primera |
6000 | Win The Spanish Segunda |
6000 | Win The Supercoppa Nazionale (Italy)|
6000 | Win The Swedish Allsvenskan |
6000 | Win The Swedish Cup |
6000 | Win The Swiss Axpo Super League |
6000 | Win The Swiss Cup |
6000 | Win The Trophée Champions (France) |
6000 | 10 Game Win Streak (Career) |
6000 | Win The Americas Club Championship |
6000 | Win The Mexican Clausura |
6000 | Win The Copa del Rey |
8000 | Score A Goal With A Created Player |
8000 | Complete Career Mode |
10000 | Become A 5 Star Manager |
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4.b MY FIFA 2005 TROPHY ROOM
You can view all the cups that you can win in the game. I'm not sure but
maybe if you win them all you get a nice reward. You can complete these in
either Career or Tournament mode.


*======\
5. TIPS |
*======/
5.a GAMEPLAY TIPS

Use chips to easily beat the goalie.
When one-on-one with the goalie press L+B to pop the ball over the goalies
head. It's usually harder to shoot around him for some reason but be warned;
I've had chips beat the goalie but then a defender has ran in and cleared the
ball away on the goal line.

Use the fake shot.
I must admit I don't often use this(probably once every three games) but when
I do I find it very useful. One time I got a penalty because the keeper mauled
me but not much else has happened. I prefer the chip over this but the fake
shot is definitely a trick worth having up your sleeve.

Practice for better results.
Don't think that practice is a waste if time- it's actually very useful in how
to beat the keeper one-on-one and how to score from set-pieces. Practice
crosses and work out what all the tricky moves are so that you can add more
dimensions to your game.

Off the Ball mode is still effective.
Why it is no where near as effective as last year Off the Ball mode can still
be very handy to get the ball down field. This is how I do virtually all of my
lobs, by cycling through to the player I want and not running them anywhere
but just pressing X and heading the ball off.

Get around defenders by using First Touch.
When your striker is receiving a pass use first touch to get around his marker
and open up the field. I like using this with player runs followed by a
through ball and then the First Touch to advance on the defence.

Rotate players to boost morale.
A lot of players in one team means many people are going to miss out on
playing. You can combat this by selling off your three or four reserves for
one or two quality players. Give the back up goalie a go as well, they are
hardly ever required but when you've already qualified for the next round of
the ECC for example you should give him a shot. I give mine three to five
appearances a season.

Use the tricky moves to get past defenders.
If you have no one to pass to or just want to score an awesome individual goal
use the C-stick to a tricky move. They don't always work but when they do they
generally open up a lot of space for you to run into. And also make sure you
know what direction does what tricky move as otherwise your chances of
getting around the defender is even lower.

Do u-turns.
What most beginners do is turn to face the goals as soon as they get the ball
but if you run towards your goals and then slowly do a u-turn you should beat
the defender. Turning straight towards goal does work but when under pressure
use the u-turn manoeuvre.

If narrowly in the lead play keepings off.
When in a must-win game and only winning by a goal with ten minutes to go
change to a defensive formation like the 5-3-2(the one I use) and pass the
ball around to any free player. If you don't have any options press B to boot
the ball up the field or head back to your goalie.

Pass to the stationary player in corners.
Corners are fairly hard to score off if you head to the guys who run in to the
ball, the keeper ALWAYS intercepts. Try the guy pushing his man around right
in front of the goals, the goalie rarely intercepts him. To jostle effectively
push the C-Stick in the direction of the defender repeatedly.

Get the ball up the field as quickly as possible.
Once you cause a turnover in defence move the ball as quickly as possible up
to your strikers because there won't be as many opposition midfielders there
to help out their defence. This works very well when they have three defenders
and you have three strikers.

Have some variety.
I know people who when playing against me use three moves; the normal pass,
through ball and shoot/conservative tackle. From this I know they are never
going to lob the ball so I stand in between the person who he is likely to
pass the ball to and the passer. This is very easy to do and if you are one
of the people who do this please use some variety to make the opponent second
guess every move you make.


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5.b CAREER TIPS

Rotate players to boost morale.
A lot of players in one team means many people are going to miss out on
playing. You can combat this by selling off your three or four reserves for
one or two quality players. Give the back up goalie a go as well, they are
hardly ever required but when you've already qualified for the next round of
the ECC for example you should give him a shot. I give mine three to five
appearances a season.

Get rid of bench boys.
If you have people who never ever play sell them and pick up one awesome
player who will contribute. You probably only need five strikers, eight
midfielders, eight defenders and two goalkeepers, any more and you've got
too many players.

Evenly distribute your manager points.
Don't boost up one area of your staff, spread the love. I think fitness
needs the most work but I still give some points to other areas. Medical staff
doesn't need to be boosted as much as the others so maybe give that the least
points but spread the rest around evenly.

Always try to score as many goals as possible.
Don't give up when your leading 3-0; the more goals you score the more
points you get to give to your staff. Beating your rival heavily and winning
by a couple of goals in Europe add more points than usual to your total.

Play to the tactics you've set.
Make sure you change the tactics to suit the style your going to play with.
If you have three defenders no use having a pressing defence that uses the
offside trap, you'll find your defenders will be all over the place giving
your opposition many easy chances.

Keep an eye on your job security.
If your security meter is dangerously low(around 10%) then aim for 0-0 draws
to raise the percentage by one or two percent. A good cup run will
dramatically improve your security but an early exit can lose you as much as
10%. If you are in the English lower divisions an early exit in both cups can
quickly turn 40% into 15%, especially if the board have high expectations.


*======================\
6. FORMATIONS & TACTICS |
*======================/
6.a FORMATIONS
Here I will list all the formations, give them my rating, mention their
strong and weak points and when to use them. Ratings are out of 10.

Attack - Rating for how many attacking options there is and how they are
positioned.
Midfield - Rating for the midfielders positioning and how well they forward
and back.
Defence - Rating for the amount of defenders present and how well they are
structured.
Balance - Rating for how balanced the amount of defenders, midfielders and
attackers are.
Overall - The average rating for all the categories above.

**********
Formation: 4-4-2
This is the most common formation you'll see in the game. Many teams use it
and for me, that is it's ultimate weakness. I don't seem to score a lot when
using this; I can't get any run out of the midfield. Try the 4-1-2-1-2 for
basically the same thing but with more attacking options.
F: 7
M: 7
D: 7
B: 8
OVERALL: 7

**********
Formation: 4-1-2-1-2
I find this formation one of the best in the game. You have the usual four
defenders a man in front of them who will do a lot of the tackling. Make your
best midfielder the CAM as he is usually the player doing the final through
pass to the strikers. Play through the middle of the park, you have no wingers
here.
F: 8
M: 8
D: 7
B: 9
OVERALL: 8

**********
Formation: 4-3-3
Definitely one of the better formations as you have a lot of attacking
players yet a solid four-man defence. You may struggle to get the ball of the
computer when it's passing the ball around as your more than likely
out-numbered. Play through balls through the defence for the best results.
F: 9
M: 6
D: 7
B: 7
OVERALL: 7

**********
Formation: 3-4-3
Very similar to the one above just this one has one of the defenders now a
midfielder. Three defenders can do the job though, especially with four
midfielders there to help them out. Don't pass it around inside your defensive
half too much as a mistake could prove costly.
F: 9
M: 7
D: 5
B: 7
OVERALL: 7

**********
Formation: 4-5-1
You'll find it very hard to score here. The only forward is lonely as ever,
with the fifth midfielder being in-front of the defence. You can slowly build
up an attack as you have the midfield numbers to win out but it will be most
likely some individual brilliance from your striker that will get you on the
scoresheet.
F: 4
M: 9
D: 8
B: 5
OVERALL: 6.5

**********
Formation: 4-4-1-1
Very similar to the 4-4-2, just with the defenders in line vertically in the
centre of the field rather than horizontal. I don't like the 4-4-2 much
because if the four flat midfielders and only two strikers and the exact same
thing is here. Try something else like 4-3-1-2.
F: 6
M: 7
D: 7
B: 8
OVERALL: 7

*********
Formation: 4-3-1-2
A use this formation occasionally, it gives you a solid defence plus the guy
who is right in behind the forwards(these players are great, they feed the
ball constantly to the forwards). You won't be undermanned in midfield either.
F: 8
M: 8
D: 7
B: 9
OVERALL: 8

**********
Formation: 5-4-1
The 5-4-1 is the formation people use when they don't want to concede any
goals or are hoping to play out a nil all draw. There really isn't much else
you can use this play for, your going to need a Thierry Henry or Raul to score
as a moment of individual brilliance will certainly be required.
F: 5
M: 7
D: 9
B: 4
OVERALL: 6

**********
Formation: 3-4-1-2
This formation is definitely worth considering. You have plenty of
midfielders who of course can help out the three defenders and the man right
in behind the strikers. You can use the cross and the direct route to goal,
it's a very flexible formation.
F: 8
M: 9
D: 6
B: 7
OVERALL: 7.5

**********
Formation: 5-3-2
At first glance this looks like a fairly defensive formation but it's not.
The two wingbacks provide a lot of run and will be at there best when crossing
and playing passes to the midfield. Two strikers can cause some havoc but
you'll need to pass it to your wingbacks and your three midfielders for the
majority of attacks.
F: 7
M: 7
D: 9
B: 7
OVERALL: 7.5

**********
Formation: 5-2-3
This is a very good formation to use. You don't need five defenders
either-midfielders can fill in the wingback positions so amount of fit
defenders should never be a problem. These guys will basically be midfielders
any way as they get forward very frequently. There aren't really any
problems here, everything is very nicely balanced.
F: 9
M: 6
D: 9
B: 8
OVERALL: 8

**********
Formation: 4-2-3-1
An OK formation though it is a fair bit more defensive than most. You have
four defenders, which is plenty but then you also have two defensive
midfielders and only one striker! The midfield is loaded though but it's
poorly structured and I would only use this for counter attacking.
F: 5
M: 7
D: 7
B: 8
OVERALL: 7

*********
Formation: 3-6-1
This is a very attacking formation, despite the lone striker. he has two
guys just behind him and then wingers as well. You can play a very good
counter-attacking game against some defences. The defence is fine here as
well because of the two defensive midfielders in front of the back three.
F: 7
M: 9
D: 7
B: 8
OVERALL: 8

**********
Formation: 3-5-2
I don't think this formation is any different to the 3-4-1-2. Have a look
there for my thoughts on that formation.
F: 8
M: 9
D: 6
B: 7
OVERALL: 7.5


Obviously these are all my personal ratings after testing them out. You may
have realised that all the scores are within 1.5 in the overall score. That's
because basically every formation has a weakness and strength, balancing out
the scores. Look for what you are good at(say, for example, you rarely
concede goals) and pick a formation that isn't string in that area. This
should make you firstly improve in that area and secondly give you another
player in a position where he is better off.


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6.b TACTICS
These are all the options in tactics plus I've included when to use them
etc.

*********
Mentality
Choose what style of play your going to use. If you are concentrating
on keeping a clean sheet then choose defence, select attacking if you want to
score as many goals as you can and conservative and if you aren't focusing on
either attacking or defending select normal. I think that all these options do
is make your computer controlled team-mates get into more attacking places or
sit back depending on what you've chosen.

*********
Attacking
These are your options that describe what the lead up to your goals usually
is:
Possession- You play the ball around for a while to create an opening.

Long Passes- You quickly get the ball out of defence using only a couple if
passes to your forwards. Basically counter-attacking.

Wing Play- Select this if you use the wings to cross the ball in to your
strikers.

*******
Defence
You can choose either pressing or contain. Pressing means that your defence
will move forwards to the strikers, while contain means your defence will sit
off and wait for the forwards to come to them. Use pressing if you have a
solid defence but if you only have three not-so-good defenders use contain.

************
Offside Trap
The offside trap is a move defences do to try and get the opposition
offside. What happens is all of your defenders will move forwards at once
right before a pass is played by the opposition to a forward who is in line
with defence. It's great if it works but if not the defender usually streaks
away. You can have it either on or off but I usually have it off.

*************
Corner Takers
Self-explanatory but I usually have my most skilled left footer taking the
left corner and my most skilled right footer taking the right.

**********************
Free Kicks & Penalties
I get my best shooter to take both of these.

*******
Captain
Choose who the team's captain is. This can effect the previous captains
morale for the worse if you do change it.


*======\
7. FAQS |
*======/
Coming Soon


*============\
8. CONCLUSION |
*============/
I hope this guide helped you in some way. Hopefully I'll update this soon
and hopefully frequently.

Here's my email <AstroMan_022@hotmail.com>

Email me when you want to- know something not in this FAQ
contribute something to this FAQ
put this on your site
correct me on grammar or information
give me tips to improve my FAQ
thank me

Just be patient, I might not get back to you quickly so don't get annoyed.
I will not reply if you ask something covered in the FAQ already, or something
just plain stupid(it happens).


*=================\
9. VERSION HISTORY |
*=================/
23/10/2004 - I done all the Formations and Tactics area, all of Career Mode, a
Version .6 few tips and some of the MY FIFA 2005 things. I need help on
some of them so please e-mail me!
29/10/2004 - Thanks to Syxx676 I added all the objectives. Otherwise a lean
Version .7 update.

*==========\
10. CREDITS |
*==========/
I would like to thank the following people:
-CJayC for having a great site that allows us to help people and discuss
gaming and other stuff, like football(soccer).

-Syxx676 for giving me basically all the objectives.

-My brother for reading over it and for doing some other minor things.

-You, for reading this FAQ and even more so those of you who have
contacted me.


*============\
11. COPYRIGHT |
*============/
This FAQ is copyright(c) TheMagicMushroom22 and is only permitted to be
shown on Gamefaqs.com. If you wish to use this guide on your site send me an
email first.
Do not use this guide for anything but private use unless you have my
permission. All trademarks and copyrights are owned by their respective
trademark and copyright holders.

ali.
11-03-2004, 05:56 AM
البته اينارو در يك فايل تكست يا ورد كپي كنيد تا بهتر بتونيد بخونيدشون چون در اينجا راست به چپ شده! :mrgreen:

MaFia
11-03-2004, 06:15 AM
واقعا مرسي خيلي دنبال اين بودم يه تصوير از اين بازي ببينم
واقعا جـــالب بود بازم ممنون :shock: :lol:

Soso
11-03-2004, 06:23 AM
آره فقط تصويرش خوب بود :mrgreen: :lol:

MaFia
11-03-2004, 06:39 AM
آره فقط تصويرش خوب بود :mrgreen: :lol:

چرا فقط تصويــر !خود بازي هم به نظر من جالب اومد البته تا بازي نكنم نميشه نظر داد شما بازي كردي مگه :?: :arrow:

Sinagood
11-03-2004, 06:42 AM
بازيش خيلي توپه حتما بخر

ali.
11-03-2004, 11:09 AM
مافيا جان قابلي نداشت :oops:

اين بازي تنها بازي هستش كه من بهش علاقه شديد دارم و از سال 99 تا به حال تمام ورژنهاشو خريدم و كلكسينشو نگهداري ميكنم :) :wink:

30naa
11-03-2004, 06:44 PM
ممنون
از تصویر
اون کد ها هم که انقدطولانی بود هر وقت گرفتمش کدها رو می بینم

mostafaeshghi
11-16-2004, 07:33 PM
دمت گرم ولي بهتر يه ذره بچه ها بازي ميكردند(حد اقل : 2هفته) بعدا رمزاش را ميذاشتي حالا به هر جهت دمت گرم

Alireza_Shafaei_PCworld
11-19-2004, 01:20 PM
چرا رمز هر پلت فرمي رانوشتي ولي پلت فرم پي سي را ننوشتي؟

FAKHER
11-21-2004, 01:34 PM
يه نمه زير ديپلم تر لطفا من كه از اين رمزها سر در نياوردم

omid_p30
12-02-2004, 06:57 PM
يه نمه زير ديپلم تر لطفا من كه از اين رمزها سر در نياوردم


من هم!!!! ما كه از اين كدها چيزي نفهميديم
بابا يه كم توضيح هم بدين
در ضمن اگه شد اين موزيك را براي دانلود بذارين(مال 2005 هست)
Viva La Vida ................Gustiao
در مورد جي يو س كه بعد از ويوا لا ويدا نوشتم شك دارم ولي اسم آهنگ ويوا لا ويدا هست كه اسپانيايي هم هست

ashkanbuffon
03-31-2005, 12:40 PM
آخه این فوتبال های فیفا چی هستن؟؟ قیافه ی بازی کن ها رو خیلی بد درست کرده. گوش های اونا مثل کشتی گیر ها شکسته!! پاهای کوتاه دارن. تازه، ضربه های کرنر و ایستگاهی بازیکن ها خیلی مسخره هستش. در آخر باید بگم که فیفا هرچقدر هم خودش رو بکشه نمی تونه مثل کونامی فوتبال قشنگ درست کنه.

Mehdi_Best
04-09-2005, 06:14 PM
این اشکان بوفون دوباره در مورد فیفا نظر داد. یکی نیست بگه اگه بدت می آد چرا تا از فیفا صحبت می شه سر و کلت پیدا می شه؟
جواب حرفهای بی منطقت هم در تاپیک های دیگه داده ایم.

seyedsaeedhashemi
04-10-2005, 02:04 PM
تازه فكر كردي :wink:

Mehdi_Best
04-10-2005, 03:22 PM
چي رو تازه فكر كردم؟ منظورت چيه؟

ashkanbuffon
04-16-2005, 09:21 AM
اینارو نگاه کن!! چه گرفتن تاپیک رمز فیفا درست کردن!!
آخه فیفا خودش چیه که رمزاش چی باشه؟!
آهای فیفا بازها!
همه ی شما باید فقط میکرو و آتاری دستی بازی کنید!
شمارو چه به پی سی و پی اس 2 وایکس باکس!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mehdi_Best
04-16-2005, 01:45 PM
آقا اشكان آتاري دستي چيه؟!!! مگه آتاري پايي هم داريم؟؟؟!!!
در ضمن تو باز خودتو قاطي كردي تو موضوعي كه به تو مربوط نيست. اگه به قول تو كه تو 100 تاپيك مختلف گفتي كه فيفا به درد نمي خوره پس چرا هر جا در مورد فيفا صحبت مي شه تو هم خودتو قاطي مي كني؟ خب عزيز دل برادر فيفا بده ! به درد نمي خوره ! بي كلاسه ! جواده! خوبه؟ پس ديگه اينقدر خودتو قاطي تاپيك هاي فيفا نكن!
در ضمن ايهاالناس بدونيد كه اشكان بوفون آخر هر چي pc و ps2 و xbox و ... است. بقيه هم هيچي از اينها سر در نمي آرن! اصلا ايشون رو بكنيد مدير انجمن بازي!

Arashi
04-16-2005, 02:23 PM
اگه به قول تو كه تو 100 تاپيك مختلف گفتي كه فيفا به درد نمي خوره پس چرا هر جا در مورد فيفا صحبت مي شه شما هم خودتو قاطي مي كني؟

آقا مهدي راست ميگن اشكان جان فكر كنم تو اين سايت (و يا حتي سايتهاي ديگه) همه فهميدن شما از فيفا بدتون مياد ( فكر كنم تو 2~3 تا تاپيكه ديگه هم گفتيد) در ضمن اينجا جاش نيست عزيز اگه دوست نداري كسي مجبورتون نكرده بيايد اينجا ‌+من ميخوام يه تاپيك درباره فوتبال كونامي بزنم شما ميتونيد اونجا درباره كونامي صحبت كنيد
موفق باشيد :wink: :wink: :wink:

ashkanbuffon
04-20-2005, 08:00 AM
mehdi_best
منم نظر خودمو میدم چون این سایت یه جورایی مربوط به این کاراس دیگه. مگه حتما باید از یه چیزی خوب بگم ! نکنه شما فکر میکنید که اگه خوب بگم پس جای نظردهی بوده ولی اگه بد بگم پس جاش نیست؟
تازه آرش جان! تو خودتو به قول مهدی جان قاطی نکن! من دارم با مهدی جان گفتمان می کنم!

اين پست به دليل عدم رعايت قوانين اصلاح شد
ميثم

Mehdi_Best
04-20-2005, 02:01 PM
اولا اینکه به قول خودت یه خورده باادب باش. دوم اینکه منم نظر خودمو میدم چون این سایت یه جورایی مربوط به این کاراس دیگه. مگه حتما باید از یه چیزی خوب بگم ! نکنه شما فکر میکنید که اگه خوب بگم پس جای نظردهی بوده ولی اگه بد بگم پس جاش نیست؟
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اشكان جان ما كه چيز بدي نگفتيم. بي احترامي هم نكرديم. يه بار ديگه به پست هاي خودت و پست هاي ما نگاه كن!
در ضمن ما نمي گيم بد نگو. ما مي گيم حرف منطقي بزن و توهين نكن


تازه آرش جان! تو خودتو به قول مهدی جان قاطی نکن! من دارم با مهدی جان گفتمان می کنم!

جان؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟!!!!!!!!!
واي چقدر جان جان!!!! چي شد اصلا!!!!


در ضمن به قول خودت كه مي گي دوست داري نظر بدي آرش هم نظر داده ديگه. مگه اشكالي داره ؟ اينجا جاي نظردادنه ديگه!! مگه خودت نمي گي؟

ashkanbuffon
04-22-2005, 09:38 AM
چی میگی تو اصلا؟! من نظر میدم تو نظر میدی اون نظر میده!! همه رو با هم قاطی کردی!!


اين پست به دليل عدم رعايت قوانين اصلاح شد
ميثم

Mehdi_Best
04-22-2005, 12:39 PM
بهتره اصلا با تو بحث نکنیم. چون فکر کنم خودت هم نمی دونی چی داری می گی؟ خودت متوجه می شی چی می گی که توقع داری بقیه متوجه بشن؟

Mehdi_Best
04-23-2005, 01:15 PM
آقا اشكان عزيز. صاحب اين سايت آقا ميثم و آقا سينا هستند. قوانيني هم براي انجمن و پست دادن در اين سايت گذاشتند. شما يا هر شخص ديگه اي اگه از اين قوانين خوشتون نمي آد مي تونيد تشريف نياريد. به نظر من با كم شدن يك نفر در اين انجمن (اون هم كسي كه دائم بد و بيراه به بقيه و حتي صاحب سايت مي گه) اصلا مشكلي براي انجمن پيش نمي آد كه بهتر هم مي شه. شما از توهين به اعضا شروع كرده و حالا به صاحب سايت هم توهين مي كنيد. خداوكيلي آقا ميثم خيلي كارش درسته كه هيچي نمي گه.

ashkanbuffon
04-24-2005, 07:30 AM
من همین جا از همه معذرت خواهی می کنم.
ولی خداوکیلی اون پست من که نوشته بودم :
mehdi_best
منم نظر خودمو میدم چون این سایت یه جورایی مربوط به این کاراس دیگه. مگه حتما باید از یه چیزی خوب بگم ! نکنه شما فکر میکنید که اگه خوب بگم پس جای نظردهی بوده ولی اگه بد بگم پس جاش نیست؟
تازه آرش جان! تو خودتو به قول مهدی جان قاطی نکن! من دارم با مهدی جان گفتمان می کنم!
این دیگه چرا اصلاح شد؟!!
اگر به خاطر کلمه ی " قاطی " باشه که خودتون هم چند جا این حرف رو به من زدید ولی اصلاح نشده.

Mehdi_Best
04-24-2005, 12:36 PM
اشكان جان سلام
همين كه اينقدر شهامت داري كه معذرت خواهي كني از بچه ها واقعا جاي تشكر داره
در مورد نظر دادن هم درسته كه اينجا جاي نظر دادن هست و حتما هم نبايد نظر موافق بدي اما نظر مخالف دادن نبايد همراه با توهين يا كلمات دور از شان انجمن باشه. در ضمن همين كه به آرش جان گفتي خودتو قاطي نكن. شايد بگي كلمه بدي توش نبوده اما خب كل اين جمله توهين آميزه. به نظرت اينطور نيست؟
اميدوارم از اين به بعد بهتر از قبل با بچه ها برخورد كني كه همه دوستت داشته باشن. ممنون

Meisam
04-24-2005, 02:59 PM
سلام
آقاي اشكان خان مثل اينكه پيغام خصوصي منو نخوندي؟ :|
در ضمن نديدم شما چي نوشتي؟ولي دفعه بعد تذكر نميدم :arrow: